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Apr 20 2016 07:52pm
Quote (willadelph @ Apr 20 2016 01:49pm)
Well the list is official, so how'd we do?



Of the predictions, most came true. The ones that I had incorrect: they went after FoN rather than Savage Roar, Abusive dodged the aggro nerf, and Divine Favor, well just play around it I suppose.

The ones I didn't call out that are happening:

Hunter's Mark - didn't really see that coming, seems ok
Blade Flurry - Cause suck it rogues (really though, that one hurts)
Arcane Golem - Guess I need to craft Leeroy now
Molten Giant - I suppose dropping 2 of these for no mana at 10 hp is pretty good

I am probably most happy that they didn't go after freeze mage, I just got into it and nerfing Alex would be sad. The biggest nerf is Blade Flurry I think, that just crushes rogue's strongest spell.

In happier news, holy shit I am going to have a ton of dust.


The nerf to bladeflurry would be a bigger deal in a world with oil... So wild rogues get fucked pretty hard.
But its not the end of rogues in standard by any means.
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Quote (Hepzibah @ Apr 20 2016 05:52pm)
The nerf to bladeflurry would be a bigger deal in a world with oil... So wild rogues get fucked pretty hard.
But its not the end of rogues in standard by any means.


What's the deck for standard Rogues now?
The fact that I'm saying "the deck" is already a problem in itself. Since they only ever have 1 viable deck.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Apr 20 2016 07:54pm
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What's the deck for standard Rogues now?
The fact that I'm saying "the deck" is already a problem in itself. Since they only ever have 1 viable deck.


That's not true.. I've taken oil rogue to rank 1-3 numerous times, but I have barely touched an 'oil' rogue deck in the last 2-3 seasons.
Miracle is still a thing, and rogue in general preys on paladins.
Theres different variations of it as well.. with Malygos and or faceless/deckhand.

Currently I could whip you up 5 very different 'competitive' rogue decks.. with mech and deathrattle being the worst of the bunch.
Just off the top of my head.

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Apr 20 2016 07:58pm
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That's not true.. I've taken oil rogue to rank 1-3 numerous times, but I have barely touched an 'oil' rogue deck in the last 2-3 seasons.
Miracle is still a thing, and rogue in general preys on paladins.
Theres different variations of it as well.. with Malygos and or faceless/deckhand.

Currently I could whip you up 5 very different 'competitive' rogue decks.. with mech and deathrattle being the worst of the bunch.
Just off the top of my head.


But none have a top tier deck.
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Apr 20 2016 08:11pm
not too thrilled with some of them.
I dont like making playable cards extremely useless. (golem.. rip.. its a worse dancing swords)

Thats a big hit to lore. Flurry is devastated.

Completely axing most of druids core cards to encourage 'diversity' just pushes them in limited viable directions.
I expect some beast druid and aggro w/ roars. Although the silence nerfs might hurt that a bit.

nerfs to juggler, owl, HM and MoD make a lot of sense.
The bgh to 5 wasnt the nerf i was expecting, but i like it more than what many others were proposing to do with it. Should still be decent, but have a real drawback now.

Maybe leper gnome could have switched to a 1/2. seems too weak now.

I was more surprised that they didnt nerf alex or freeze pieces.

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Currently I could whip you up 5 very different 'competitive' rogue decks.. with mech and deathrattle being the worst of the bunch.
Just off the top of my head.

mech and best deathrattle pieces rotate out.
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Apr 20 2016 08:19pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 20 2016 09:11pm)
not too thrilled with some of them.
I dont like making playable cards extremely useless. (golem.. rip.. its a worse dancing swords)

Thats a big hit to lore. Flurry is devastated.

Completely axing most of druids core cards to encourage 'diversity' just pushes them in limited viable directions.
I expect some beast druid and aggro w/ roars. Although the silence nerfs might hurt that a bit.

nerfs to juggler, owl, HM and MoD make a lot of sense.
The bgh to 5 wasnt the nerf i was expecting, but i like it more than what many others were proposing to do with it. Should still be decent, but have a real drawback now.

Maybe leper gnome could have switched to a 1/2. seems too weak now.

I was more surprised that they didnt nerf alex or freeze pieces.


mech and best deathrattle pieces rotate out.


yeah I agree the nerfs are a little drastic.. im a little worried CW is just getting stronger.. but eh.. I guess they do lose some crucial cards as well.
With mech and DR rogues; I meant in our current patch/meta I could whip up about 5 variations that wouldn't completely suck.

Quote (FroggyG @ Apr 20 2016 09:09pm)
But none have a top tier deck.


oil and miracle fall in and around 1-3.. I truly believe miracle will still be playable, and the go-to deck for rogue.
e/ with other decks being nerfed it will be impossible to tell where miracle would fall into tier-wise

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Apr 20 2016 08:20pm
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That's not true.. I've taken oil rogue to rank 1-3 numerous times, but I have barely touched an 'oil' rogue deck in the last 2-3 seasons.
Miracle is still a thing, and rogue in general preys on paladins.
Theres different variations of it as well.. with Malygos and or faceless/deckhand.

Currently I could whip you up 5 very different 'competitive' rogue decks.. with mech and deathrattle being the worst of the bunch.
Just off the top of my head.



You couldn't whip up 1 deck to beat me .. Yet you can whip up 5 rogue decks ? Prove it !! <3
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Apr 20 2016 08:34pm
Quote (Katelyn @ Apr 20 2016 09:28pm)
You couldn't whip up 1 deck to beat me .. Yet you can whip up 5 rogue decks ? Prove it !! <3


I've played at least 3 different rogue decks against you since we've started playing..
Warriors are like my achilles heel... I made a deck and smashed your warrior but I hate doing it. :(

so yeah.. :( I can't do it.

you only play druid and warrior too >_< not fair

Quote (Katelyn @ Apr 20 2016 09:36pm)
I refuse to confirm this comment my online rep can't be tarnished


Katelyn 50-0's me

:hug:

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Apr 20 2016 08:37pm
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I've played at least 3 different rogue decks against you since we've started playing..
Warriors are like my achilles heel... I made a deck and smashed your warrior but I hate doing it. :(

so yeah.. :( I can't do it.


I refuse to confirm this comment my online rep can't be tarnished


I haven't que Druid or war once on ladder this season

This post was edited by Katelyn on Apr 20 2016 08:41pm
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