ITT: someone thinks figuring out that you have 1/16 chance to draw the card you need is "complicated math".

Feels like an episode of are you smarter than a fifth grader in here.

If you really think that's the math required then you might want to watch Billy Madison and try doing what he did

If you think things like "ice block proc probability" are complicated, you might need to stop talking down to people. Psssst. That's also known as "will i die this turn?" to every other class.

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Apr 24 2015 09:36am

Yeah, except you don't die as with ice block ffs, meaning you have turns afterwards

just stop

WOAH! IS THAT WHAT ICE BLOCK DOES?! NO WAYYYYY.

Ps. Getting extra turns after you should be dead doesn't make things more complicated.... It just gives you more time to play your win conditions...

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Apr 24 2015 09:58am

Wouldn't have guessed you knew based on your post.

Let me outline an example



You have 7 cards in hand, one is Arcane Int. Your current best play based on cards in hand does not allow you remaining mana to cast AI. If you make your best play this turn with current cards in hand without taking into account cards you might draw with AI, you estimate you have a 40% chance to win the game if your opponent doesn't have Card X and 35% chance if he does.
By playing AI, you have a 20% chance of drawing Card A and a 10% chance of drawing Card B, each of which give you a play that you estimate will give you a 55% chance to win the game if your opponent doesn't have Card X and 35% chance if he does.
By playing AI, you also have a 20% chance of drawing Card C, which gives you a play that you estimate will give you a 60% chance to win the game if your opponent doesn't have Card Y, and 25% if he does

Your opponent has a 16.6% chance of having Card X and a 10% chance of having Card Y.

Should you play AI? Assuming each of the possible situations after casting, what is the optimal play in each?

Now do that in the time allotted for your turn in-game.

And that's probably the EASY part, because that doesn't even take into account the calculations required to estimate your win % in each situation, which has all sorts of other variables.





I'm not trying to talk down to people, I don't even think I'm that good at this game, but it's really annoying when people claim shit's easy when they don't even have a clue

This post was edited by Voyaging on Apr 24 2015 10:06am

Fucking lol. When in reality, all you needed to figure out was "can i burst him this turn? Will i die if i play AI? Do i have the mana to burst him down next turn or should i play a fireball this turn? What are my chances of drawing the second fireball?" I get it, your favorite deck isn't actually as hard as you thought it was. Stall + burst, not complicated. I'm sorry. Frothing from the mouth and coming up with wildly insignificant circumstances isn't going to change anything.

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Apr 24 2015 10:12am

Again, like I said I'm talking about playing freeze mage well

There are several pros who do exactly this mid-game, there are more than a few situations where you can draw into a better play but you have to determine whether it's worth taking the risk to draw. Except most people do it by intuition which is why they lose more. Pros calculate their odds, just like pro poker players. Decision theory is not a new concept in card games, it's basically the first thing you learn when you learn poker.

Freeze mage my favorite deck?? LOL it might be my least favorite deck in the game, I hate decks that don't interact with the opponent. I like watching really great players play it though.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Apr 24 2015 10:14am

Oh okay, so hypothetical things you don't actually have any idea about. Got it. Lol

Psssst. Much like poker, the hard part isn't the math. The hard part in poker is reading your opponent. All of them, from the good to the bad, know the math already.

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Apr 24 2015 10:16am