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Jul 26 2017 04:16pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 26 2017 03:46pm)
First off I never even mentioned Kripp

Either way Kripp is literally the best arena player in NA lmao, he's been #1 on the monthly rankings of winrate like 3 times

That said, he's wrong about Bittertide Hydra, it's a pretty good card

But its downside is fucking enormous

It straight up insta-loses to certain cards (volcano, aldor/humility)


Volcano on this minion does not = insta loss... Volcano is a 6 mana answer to something like bittertide, but that's 6 mana they need to spend to remove it... Well worth 3 life man. 6 mana removal is not exactly an efficient card you know.

Again the downside in the arena is so negligible its ivirtually non-existent.
Aldoring it is likely the worst case scenario.
Krip plays this game for a literal living, roughly 8 hours a day 7 days a week.
If you played this much and dedicated that time to arena you too would be a top ranking arena player, I have absolutely 0 doubt of this in my mind.... ANYONE without fucking autism should be able to achieve this.

Froggy trying to post//make a point but doesn't even fucking watch the content himself...

The credibility in this forum is absolutely laughable. You guys are literally worse then reddit. which is bad enough as it is.
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Jul 26 2017 04:19pm
Quote (Hepzibah @ Jul 26 2017 06:16pm)
Volcano on this minion does not = insta loss... Volcano is a 6 mana answer to something like bittertide, but that's 6 mana they need to spend to remove it... Well worth 3 life man. 6 mana removal is not exactly an efficient card you know.


3 life lol

wrong card

Quote (Hepzibah @ Jul 26 2017 06:16pm)
Krip plays this game for a literal living, roughly 8 hours a day 7 days a week.
If you played this much and dedicated that time to arena you too would be a top ranking arena player, I have absolutely 0 doubt of this in my mind.... ANYONE without fucking autism should be able to achieve this.


Plenty of players play as much as Kripp and have worse winrates.

I'm sure yours is shit as well.
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Jul 26 2017 04:30pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 26 2017 05:19pm)
3 life lol

wrong card



Plenty of players play as much as Kripp and have worse winrates.

I'm sure yours is shit as well.


???????????

Quote (cambovenzi @ Jul 26 2017 05:32pm)


Ohh I was definitely thinking meteor. Fair enough yeah this card equally as bad to see as aldor when playing bittertide. My mistake.

Avenging wrath/missles are also bad but there is not enough cards to warrant playing around these.. especially in arena.

My winrate is not even on the table/debate here... ? Though I have a strong feeling its better then 95% of this subforum.

https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20324474/inside-the-arena-10-18-2016

When kripp was doing well in arena.. he was playing more then twice the amount the competition played.

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Jul 26 2017 04:49pm
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Jul 26 2017 04:32pm
Quote (Hepzibah @ Jul 26 2017 06:30pm)
???????????

When you deal damage to bittertide - from a volcano.. youre clearing the 8/8 body and taking 3 damage? Wtf do you mean wrong card?

100% fact you can go and check the arena statistics for NA, kripp plays more runs then virtually everyone.

So.... Im really unsure where you get the 'people play as much with worse winrate' bull shit.

My winrate is not even on the table/debate here... ? Though I have a strong feeling its better then 95% of this subforum.


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Jul 26 2017 04:38pm
Does Hepzibah not know what Hydra or Volcano does? He thinks it's only 3 damage?

Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 26 2017 04:19pm)
Plenty of players play as much as Kripp and have worse winrates.

I'm sure yours is shit as well.


The amount of games isn't relevant after a certain amount. The winrate is all that matters.
He's in top 3 at all times, most often top 1.

He complains about hydra so much lol
And on the other end of the spectrum, it's meteor

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jul 26 2017 04:42pm
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Jul 26 2017 04:45pm
Quote (FroggyG @ Jul 26 2017 05:38pm)
Does Hepzibah not know what Hydra or Volcano does? He thinks it's only 3 damage?



The amount of games isn't relevant after a certain amount. The winrate is all that matters.
He's in top 3 at all times, most often top 1.


He's not in top 3 for a while as far as I can tell..
And clearly ive mistaken volcano with meteor.

There are very few cards that truly punish Bittertide, Volcano, avenging wrath, mad bombers can be scary. But not enough cards to warrant not drafting a 5 mana 8/8.

https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20695743/top-100-arena-players-march-2017-4-13-2017
https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20730541/top-100-arena-players-april-2017-5-12-2017
https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20838076


This post was edited by Hepzibah on Jul 26 2017 04:47pm
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Jul 26 2017 06:18pm
Quote (Hepzibah @ Jul 26 2017 05:45pm)
He's not in top 3 for a while as far as I can tell..
And clearly ive mistaken volcano with meteor.

There are very few cards that truly punish Bittertide, Volcano, avenging wrath, mad bombers can be scary. But not enough cards to warrant not drafting a 5 mana 8/8.

https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20695743/top-100-arena-players-march-2017-4-13-2017
https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20730541/top-100-arena-players-april-2017-5-12-2017
https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20838076


https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20904302/top-hearthstone-players-june-2017-7-7-2017 there is a link to last month he was number 1 with 8.37 winrate
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Jul 26 2017 07:17pm
Quote (Hepzibah @ Jul 26 2017 06:30pm)
When kripp was doing well in arena.. he was playing more then twice the amount the competition played.


Which statistically makes it even more impressive lol...

Quote (Hepzibah @ Jul 26 2017 06:45pm)
There are very few cards that truly punish Bittertide, Volcano, avenging wrath, mad bombers can be scary. But not enough cards to warrant not drafting a 5 mana 8/8.


Loads of cards punish it. Small taunts, the entire Paladin and Mage class/hero power (the two most popular Arena classes mind you), Aldor/Humility, freeze effects, plus literally any situation your opponent has a wide board, and almost any time you're low on health.

It's certainly a solid card but it's nowhere near one of the best Arena cards. I'd put it somewhere between average and good. It's situational in that sometimes you just can't play it, but when it's the right situation it can win games.

Quote (TeddyBearDr @ Jul 26 2017 08:18pm)
https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20904302/top-hearthstone-players-june-2017-7-7-2017 there is a link to last month he was number 1 with 8.37 winrate


Thanks, and that's like the 3rd or 4th time.
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Jul 26 2017 07:22pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 26 2017 08:17pm)
Which statistically makes it even more impressive lol...



Loads of cards punish it. Small taunts, the entire Paladin and Mage class/hero power (the two most popular Arena classes mind you), Aldor/Humility, freeze effects, plus literally any situation your opponent has a wide board, and almost any time you're low on health.

It's certainly a solid card but it's nowhere near one of the best Arena cards. I'd put it somewhere between average and good. It's situational in that sometimes you just can't play it, but when it's the right situation it can win games.



Thanks, and that's like the 3rd or 4th time.


1/2 the classes and cards you mention are not even remotely hard counters to the card in question man....
Your opponent is going to lose if they are pinging for ping's sake on your bittertide, and same goes for paladin hero power.. If youre doing either of these solely to 'counter' this card.. you are so fucking horrible at this game you should uninstall now.

as for small taunts, or any general minion.. this thing trades favorably with virtually every card in the game. That's not a hard counter to this card in the slightest.
Have your brain checked please.

the card has a 75 rating. it is above average.

If youre disagreeing with arena tier ratings, youre disagreeing with the top players in that meta.

SeemsGoodMan

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Jul 26 2017 07:23pm
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Jul 26 2017 08:21pm
Quote (Hepzibah @ Jul 26 2017 09:22pm)
the card has a 75 rating. it is above average.


Literally what I said.

Might wanna take some reading comprehension courses along with those Hearthstone courses.

P.S. you still haven't posted your tracking stats of your arena win rate.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Jul 26 2017 08:22pm
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