d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Other Games > Other Games > Hearthstone > Rip Quest Rogue
Prev123456Next
Add Reply New Trade New Service New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 26,025
Joined: Jun 14 2006
Gold: 5,300.00
Warn: 10%
Jul 12 2017 11:28am
Quote (DrLatBC @ Jul 12 2017 11:44am)
It was for LOTS of decks besides control priest

Again, I'll reiterate try to follow. Blizzard doesn't take nerfs lightly. They usually refrain from doing ANY at all until expansions.


The lash back from quest rogue (something tells me ALL these players don't play priest) was so great, they actually hot fixed it.


Oh and meteor and quest don't get included in freeze mage at all. So that's why I didn't mention them. :p


outside of a priest i don't know what other decks are having issues. i ask all users to list any decks that they see this ladder @ rank 15 or higher, that couldn't compete with a quest rogue.

an assassin is supposed to be the type that gets in and out quick. a quick decisive match. the quest as it was, was perfectly fit in this expansion.
the quest needs a total rework now. not just a nerf. i cannot stress how much that 1 extra minion took away the benefit of this quest.
Member
Posts: 15,416
Joined: Feb 17 2014
Gold: 5.71
Jul 12 2017 02:48pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Jul 12 2017 12:28pm)
outside of a priest i don't know what other decks are having issues. i ask all users to list any decks that they see this ladder @ rank 15 or higher, that couldn't compete with a quest rogue.

an assassin is supposed to be the type that gets in and out quick. a quick decisive match. the quest as it was, was perfectly fit in this expansion.
the quest needs a total rework now. not just a nerf. i cannot stress how much that 1 extra minion took away the benefit of this quest.


Rogue game play has nothing to do with any assassin bullshit.

Seriously, go look at the hundreds of streamers that agree with me. This is literally you stating your stupid opinion and pretending it's more valid than LITERALLY thousands of other's opinions.


You don't seem to realize how little blizzard cares to hot fix things, man.... They seriously just don't do it unless the ENTIRE community says something. Fucking undertaker lasted so damn long before getting nerfed.
Member
Posts: 26,025
Joined: Jun 14 2006
Gold: 5,300.00
Warn: 10%
Jul 12 2017 07:53pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Jul 12 2017 03:48pm)
Rogue game play has nothing to do with any assassin bullshit.

Seriously, go look at the hundreds of streamers that agree with me. This is literally you stating your stupid opinion and pretending it's more valid than LITERALLY thousands of other's opinions.


You don't seem to realize how little blizzard cares to hot fix things, man.... They seriously just don't do it unless the ENTIRE community says something. Fucking undertaker lasted so damn long before getting nerfed.


answer my question then. what deck is weak vs quest rogue outside of priest?

what you're saying is the masses think this, so it must be true. all hail the sun god?

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Jul 12 2017 07:55pm
Member
Posts: 2,589
Joined: Dec 28 2003
Gold: 11,531.00
Jul 13 2017 04:55am
Quest rogue you will forever be missed. Your 50% win rate was fun and I don't give a darn if it was interactive or not. Love you baby. Rip gold rogue hero
Member
Posts: 49,196
Joined: Dec 7 2008
Gold: 266.00
Jul 13 2017 05:07am
epal rogue

Member
Posts: 15,416
Joined: Feb 17 2014
Gold: 5.71
Jul 13 2017 10:26am
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Jul 12 2017 08:53pm)
answer my question then. what deck is weak vs quest rogue outside of priest?

what you're saying is the masses think this, so it must be true. all hail the sun god?


I love when people do this.

Every single control deck that was too weak to stop quest Rogue. Taunt warrior for instance. Remember, quest Rogue is a BIG reason so many control decks never even saw the light of day.


PS. At least my opinion is based on something. (like streamers who have literally made a living off hs)

Go ask kibler, Kripp, firebat or other streamers how they feel about quest Rogue. Kibler also has card game designing experience under his belt, but what the fuck does he know lol.

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Jul 13 2017 10:26am
Member
Posts: 41,780
Joined: Jan 13 2009
Gold: 25.20
Jul 13 2017 11:32am
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Jul 12 2017 07:53pm)
answer my question then. what deck is weak vs quest rogue outside of priest?

what you're saying is the masses think this, so it must be true. all hail the sun god?


The reason you can't think of any decks that are weak to quest rogue is because they aren't viable due to quest rogue.

Worst part of quest rogue is simply just poor game design though

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jul 13 2017 11:32am
Member
Posts: 26,025
Joined: Jun 14 2006
Gold: 5,300.00
Warn: 10%
Jul 13 2017 02:03pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Jul 13 2017 11:26am)
I love when people do this.

Every single control deck that was too weak to stop quest Rogue. Taunt warrior for instance. Remember, quest Rogue is a BIG reason so many control decks never even saw the light of day.


PS. At least my opinion is based on something. (like streamers who have literally made a living off hs)

Go ask kibler, Kripp, firebat or other streamers how they feel about quest Rogue. Kibler also has card game designing experience under his belt, but what the fuck does he know lol.


quest warrior was far from weak vs quest rogue. early taunts of any hp leaves you having to deal with them. even after quest completion, quest warrior has a few spells dedicated to board clean-up.

Quote (FroggyG @ Jul 13 2017 12:32pm)
The reason you can't think of any decks that are weak to quest rogue is because they aren't viable due to quest rogue.

Worst part of quest rogue is simply just poor game design though


i don't think it's just the quest rogue that forced these meta decks. with pirate warriors, murloc pallys and evoshams... you still need to plan for early board clean-up, and plan for mid-game clean-up.
i am willing to bet nothing changes this ladder until the expansion. outside of 0 users claiming legendary with a rogue deck.
this month the only change made, is less rogues. nothing else
Member
Posts: 3,019
Joined: Jul 23 2008
Gold: 1,160.00
Jul 13 2017 02:11pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Jul 13 2017 08:03pm)
quest warrior was far from weak vs quest rogue. early taunts of any hp leaves you having to deal with them. even after quest completion, quest warrior has a few spells dedicated to board clean-up.



i don't think it's just the quest rogue that forced these meta decks. with pirate warriors, murloc pallys and evoshams... you still need to plan for early board clean-up, and plan for mid-game clean-up.
i am willing to bet nothing changes this ladder until the expansion. outside of 0 users claiming legendary with a rogue deck.
this month the only change made, is less rogues. nothing else


You're making claims without anything to back them up. Statistically quest rogue countered taunt warrior pretty badly (see link below). It was favored vs almost every single slow deck which was unhealthy, the nerf is justified.

Also based on the live updates vicious syndicate does you can already see changes in the meta, one of the most notable being an increase in jade druid (I'll admit this may have partially been due to it being played frequently in recent tournaments.)

http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-55/

This post was edited by Zuzum on Jul 13 2017 02:12pm
Member
Posts: 15,416
Joined: Feb 17 2014
Gold: 5.71
Jul 13 2017 03:14pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Jul 13 2017 03:03pm)
quest warrior was far from weak vs quest rogue. early taunts of any hp leaves you having to deal with them. even after quest completion, quest warrior has a few spells dedicated to board clean-up.



i don't think it's just the quest rogue that forced these meta decks. with pirate warriors, murloc pallys and evoshams... you still need to plan for early board clean-up, and plan for mid-game clean-up.
i am willing to bet nothing changes this ladder until the expansion. outside of 0 users claiming legendary with a rogue deck.
this month the only change made, is less rogues. nothing else


Incorrect.

Taunt warriors very low attack minions can't pressure out the Rogue before he completes quest then vanishes.

Then it's difficult to play enough taunts per turn to stop a constant stream of 5/5s who almost can always trade efficiently with your taunts.




You clearly don't understand the deck you're defending lol.


/e

Quote (FroggyG @ Jul 13 2017 12:32pm)
The reason you can't think of any decks that are weak to quest rogue is because they aren't viable due to quest rogue.

Worst part of quest rogue is simply just poor game design though


Ding ding ding. We have a winner!

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Jul 13 2017 03:15pm
Go Back To Hearthstone Topic List
Prev123456Next
Add Reply New Trade New Service New Topic New Poll