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May 2 2017 04:10am
Quote (JVMorrow @ May 2 2017 12:27am)
I think around 4 wins is breaking even.
Not sure though.. it's just what I feel is a fair trade for 150 gold. Usually a pack (100) and 30-50 gold with some dust or a card.

I do have heartharena but I don't follow it 100%
I found that following hearth arena I was frequently drafting attrition type decks and they are my least favorite to play
also my 8 win rogue was without hearth arena.
I actually drafted that rogue after staring at one of kripps drafts. I noticed a key difference in his drafts compared to mine.
He had maybe 4-5 1 cost cards and 4-5 2 cost cards in what seemed like a curvestone deck. I usually have that many 2 cost cards, but it isn't often that I have more than 1 1 cost card that is not a spell.


I do use a deck tracker. It is extremely useful.

What guys do you think are the best classes for arena?
I really thought paladin would be good but I don't even want to try again.


4 wins is breaking even in the sense that you generally get at least 50gold back and a pack, but what I meant about "net losses" is that you can't play infinite arenas. This is a problem at 4 wins, youll eventually run out of gold if you are planning on doing more than 1 arena a day.

Id say around 6.5+ the arena runs can go infinite without the help of quest gold. At around 6 - 6.5 you might be able to do multiple arenas a day with the help of quests. For example, I had a little less than 1500 gold a week ago, since then Ive played about 10 arenas and I have over 1700 gold now. At this rate I can continue doing this without a problem.

As for heartharena, Its definitely a good tool, but I dont follow it to the letter either. Some picks are so close that just having the app give you a suggestion is really useful. After you finish you can observe your w/l ratio which i find useful.


Right now mage is statistically the best for me by far. Kripp did a video on this a little bit ago confirming this.

Rogue is generally pretty good for me too, but I think it is one of the hardest classes to play with since its so fragile - trading life totals for tempo can get you easily killed against mages or hunters or even warlocks with lots burst.


I would say in general from my experience the best classes in arena at the moment are:

1) Mage
2) Rogue
3) Hunter and Shaman
4) Paladin and Priest
5) Warlock and Druid
6) Warrior

Kripp's "curvestone" analysis is pretty accurate. Going second is a huge disadvantage at higher win ratios for all classes, but it hurts some more than others. For me mage and rogue are least effected, warlock, priest, and warrior suffer are at a much bigger disadvantage.

For me overall its 60.53% win with the coin, 76.54% win without it in the last week for a ratio of 6.25.

This post was edited by Furdtarmer on May 2 2017 04:16am
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May 2 2017 08:23am
had a mage just play dirty rat on turn 2 and it pulled my stonehill defender ... sad day

also in the game before that the first 4 cards i pulled was 3x assassinate and 1x shadow strike. put all assassinates back and ended up finishing out that game with all 3 in my hand lol


Now I got 6 minute waits to get into my next game
curently 2-1.. lost to that mage

Quote (Furdtarmer @ 2 May 2017 05:10)
4 wins is breaking even in the sense that you generally get at least 50gold back and a pack, but what I meant about "net losses" is that you can't play infinite arenas. This is a problem at 4 wins, youll eventually run out of gold if you are planning on doing more than 1 arena a day.

Id say around 6.5+ the arena runs can go infinite without the help of quest gold. At around 6 - 6.5 you might be able to do multiple arenas a day with the help of quests. For example, I had a little less than 1500 gold a week ago, since then Ive played about 10 arenas and I have over 1700 gold now. At this rate I can continue doing this without a problem.

As for heartharena, Its definitely a good tool, but I dont follow it to the letter either. Some picks are so close that just having the app give you a suggestion is really useful. After you finish you can observe your w/l ratio which i find useful.


Right now mage is statistically the best for me by far. Kripp did a video on this a little bit ago confirming this.

Rogue is generally pretty good for me too, but I think it is one of the hardest classes to play with since its so fragile - trading life totals for tempo can get you easily killed against mages or hunters or even warlocks with lots burst.


I would say in general from my experience the best classes in arena at the moment are:

1) Mage
2) Rogue
3) Hunter and Shaman
4) Paladin and Priest
5) Warlock and Druid
6) Warrior

Kripp's "curvestone" analysis is pretty accurate. Going second is a huge disadvantage at higher win ratios for all classes, but it hurts some more than others. For me mage and rogue are least effected, warlock, priest, and warrior suffer are at a much bigger disadvantage.

For me overall its 60.53% win with the coin, 76.54% win without it in the last week for a ratio of 6.25.


when i first started playing this game and saw a picture of someone getting 12 wins I started to day dream about making enough gold in arena runs to keep doing arena runs

a lot of you guys on here seem to get 6+ wins regularly.. some one has to lose to you guys
I think I am one of those loser guys xD

I do enjoy hunter and rogue in this arena so far.
Thanks for your info
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May 2 2017 08:25pm
Quote (JVMorrow @ May 2 2017 09:23am)
had a mage just play dirty rat on turn 2 and it pulled my stonehill defender ... sad day

also in the game before that the first 4 cards i pulled was 3x assassinate and 1x shadow strike. put all assassinates back and ended up finishing out that game with all 3 in my hand lol


Now I got 6 minute waits to get into my next game
curently 2-1.. lost to that mage



when i first started playing this game and saw a picture of someone getting 12 wins I started to day dream about making enough gold in arena runs to keep doing arena runs

a lot of you guys on here seem to get 6+ wins regularly.. some one has to lose to you guys
I think I am one of those loser guys xD

I do enjoy hunter and rogue in this arena so far.
Thanks for your info


6+ isn't that common. Kripp was like 7.5ish and 1# in na
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May 5 2017 06:43am
Quote (DrLatBC @ May 2 2017 09:25pm)
6+ isn't that common. Kripp was like 7.5ish and 1# in na


Also depending on which region youre playing in its harder to get high wins.

Europe tends to have the highest win ratios, followed by americas, followed by asia. In asia even the top arena players barely scratch 7 wins.
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May 8 2017 08:02am
Mage - 3 , 2 , 3 , 3 , 5 , 5 , 2

Warrior - 4 , 2

Rogue - 8 , 2 , 4 , 3

Druid - 4

Paladin - 2 , 1

Priest - 4 , 5

Shaman - 6 , 3


Added a 2 mage , 3 rogue, 5 priest
didnt even want to count the mage one i forfeit 2 games long before they were over.
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May 8 2017 09:37am
adding 5 rogue
it was a good run. I thougth i was going to win the game that was my last loss
saving my decks now to show each one
www.heartharena.com/arena-run/snoi3y

Mage - 3 , 2 , 3 , 3 , 5 , 5 , 2

Warrior - 4 , 2

Rogue - 8 , 2 , 4 , 3 , 5

Druid - 4

Paladin - 2 , 1

Priest - 4 , 5

Shaman - 6 , 3
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May 10 2017 07:37am
adding 3 mage
www.heartharena.com/arena-run/332gg8
lost first 2 games


also adding a 1 rogue
drafted if you have a dragon iny uor hand discover adragon
had no dragons to draft
was disappointed
played like poo and drafted like an idiot.

Mage - 3 , 2 , 3 , 3 , 5 , 5 , 2 , 3

Warrior - 4 , 2

Rogue - 8 , 2 , 4 , 3 , 5 , 1

Druid - 4

Paladin - 2 , 1

Priest - 4 , 5

Shaman - 6 , 3
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May 12 2017 01:49am
adding 3 rogue
www.heartharena.com/arena-run/u6r4vb
i have 2x ysharrj and 3 envenom weapons


Mage - 3 , 2 , 3 , 3 , 5 , 5 , 2 , 3

Warrior - 4 , 2

Rogue - 8 , 2 , 4 , 3 , 5 , 1 , 3

Druid - 4

Paladin - 2 , 1

Priest - 4 , 5

Shaman - 6 , 3
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May 12 2017 07:46am
Quote (Furdtarmer @ May 2 2017 03:10am)
4 wins is breaking even in the sense that you generally get at least 50gold back and a pack, but what I meant about "net losses" is that you can't play infinite arenas. This is a problem at 4 wins, youll eventually run out of gold if you are planning on doing more than 1 arena a day.

Id say around 6.5+ the arena runs can go infinite without the help of quest gold. At around 6 - 6.5 you might be able to do multiple arenas a day with the help of quests. For example, I had a little less than 1500 gold a week ago, since then Ive played about 10 arenas and I have over 1700 gold now. At this rate I can continue doing this without a problem.

As for heartharena, Its definitely a good tool, but I dont follow it to the letter either. Some picks are so close that just having the app give you a suggestion is really useful. After you finish you can observe your w/l ratio which i find useful.


Right now mage is statistically the best for me by far. Kripp did a video on this a little bit ago confirming this.

Rogue is generally pretty good for me too, but I think it is one of the hardest classes to play with since its so fragile - trading life totals for tempo can get you easily killed against mages or hunters or even warlocks with lots burst.


I would say in general from my experience the best classes in arena at the moment are:

1) Mage
2) Rogue
3) Hunter and Shaman
4) Paladin and Priest
5) Warlock and Druid
6) Warrior

Kripp's "curvestone" analysis is pretty accurate. Going second is a huge disadvantage at higher win ratios for all classes, but it hurts some more than others. For me mage and rogue are least effected, warlock, priest, and warrior suffer are at a much bigger disadvantage.

For me overall its 60.53% win with the coin, 76.54% win without it in the last week for a ratio of 6.25.


What videos are you referencing? I usually watch Kripps youtube if it's more analysis than in game
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May 12 2017 09:42am
Quote (XxAdrielJeremiahGreebxX @ May 12 2017 08:46am)
What videos are you referencing? I usually watch Kripps youtube if it's more analysis than in game


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