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Feb 17 2017 06:42am
Quote (d2jspNA @ Feb 17 2017 07:38am)
Current problems do not invalidate a cards existence.

Face Warrior / Shaman were not previously used in tournaments as much as Control warrior and midrange shaman.

Should we invalidate Shield Block and Lightning Storm because they're not meta now? No. The meta adapts.

Your thinking is closed-minded and does not consider possibilities into the future rather than the here and now.

Pyroblast has 0 effect on 99.99% of players. Pyroblast is used in 1 tournament deck. Therefor Pyroblast shouldn't exist based on popularity.

Hunter is not meta. Therefor delete the class.

This card isn't a tournament stomping powerhouse Dr.Boom level card. It's a card like Krul.

Based on your pre-notion of how card design should work here are some legendaries that should not exist by YOUR standards.

http://image.prntscr.com/image/e341ee5f8aab4ba68725c3b2bf5cf5ad.png

And these are only the legendaries.

There are another 300 cards on your list that have fallen out.


Let's clear something up.
You have massively misconstrued my point.

Objectively your card is bad. This has nothing to do with any tournament or meta. I just believe it's bad.
That deck is bad because of the meta. A tournament setting it may be decent because it the meta is more predictable/bans exist.

Everything else you posted is basically a crazy string of assumptions.



/e oh and unless they release like 10 murlocs with really good bodies this card will probably always be bad. Which is unlikely. :p

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Feb 17 2017 06:52am
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Feb 17 2017 08:30am
Quote (DrLatBC @ Feb 17 2017 06:42am)

/e oh and unless they release like 10 murlocs with really good bodies this card will probably always be bad. Which is unlikely. :p


Except you know, when you get 1 Murloc warleader out.

It's like playing Nzoth, except without having to play any deathrattle minions. Imagine having this in your deck instead of Rag. (Standard Tournament whatever druid that runs rag)

There are 16 Neutral Murlocs.

6 Slots means that on an empty board for 10 mana at minimum you get 7/4 + 6 1/1s (13/10) in stats.

What happens when you get 1 warleader?

The game is over unless they have twisting nether/brawl/mass poly/flamestrike

7/4 3/3 5 1/1s turn into 9/5 3/3 5 3/2s- that is 27 damage next turn.

What if you get a bluegill and 1 warleader? That's an instant 4 damage and a KO next turn.

Is it bad design because it's too OP? Because my strong opinion is that you're saying it's incredibly underpowered.
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Feb 17 2017 01:12pm
Quote (d2jspNA @ Feb 17 2017 09:30am)
Except you know, when you get 1 Murloc warleader out.

It's like playing Nzoth, except without having to play any deathrattle minions. Imagine having this in your deck instead of Rag. (Standard Tournament whatever druid that runs rag)

There are 16 Neutral Murlocs.

6 Slots means that on an empty board for 10 mana at minimum you get 7/4 + 6 1/1s (13/10) in stats.

What happens when you get 1 warleader?

The game is over unless they have twisting nether/brawl/mass poly/flamestrike

7/4 3/3 5 1/1s turn into 9/5 3/3 5 3/2s- that is 27 damage next turn.

What if you get a bluegill and 1 warleader? That's an instant 4 damage and a KO next turn.

Is it bad design because it's too OP? Because my strong opinion is that you're saying it's incredibly underpowered.


You get one warleader and it gets blown out by all the aoe floating around. But let's ignore the fact that any deck that isn't aggro (you'd be dead LONG before turn 10) runs a minimum of 3 aoes.

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Feb 17 2017 01:14pm
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Feb 17 2017 03:20pm
king mrgl-mrgl innervate innervate savage roar 6 bluegills gg
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Quote (Voyaging @ Feb 17 2017 04:20pm)
king mrgl-mrgl innervate innervate savage roar 6 bluegills gg


he made it a neutral card
you can use it in any deck not; just druid :)
though its effect is really similar to finja the flyingstar

and finja kicks ass

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Feb 17 2017 05:42pm
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Feb 17 2017 05:45pm
I like this card.. I'd honestly play it (in my fun decks)

And Turn 1 Astral into this guy.. seems pretttttttttty good.
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Feb 17 2017 07:22pm
Quote (Jaina @ Feb 17 2017 06:45pm)
I like this card.. I'd honestly play it (in my fun decks)

And Turn 1 Astral into this guy.. seems pretttttttttty good.


I mean is turn 1 astral into any 10 drop bad?

Even like nzoth, a 5/7 ain't getting removed any time soon lol.
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Feb 17 2017 07:28pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ 17 Feb 2017 20:22)
I mean is turn 1 astral into any 10 drop bad?

Even like nzoth, a 5/7 ain't getting removed any time soon lol.


Come on brother, use your imagination.

You play a 7/4.. High chance you get Warleaders and stuffs with it, also possibly murloc knights, or at the very least 2/1's and 1/1's or even 3/2's and 2/3's

I think it's a good card
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Feb 17 2017 07:37pm
Quote (Jaina @ Feb 17 2017 08:28pm)
Come on brother, use your imagination.

You play a 7/4.. High chance you get Warleaders and stuffs with it, also possibly murloc knights, or at the very least 2/1's and 1/1's or even 3/2's and 2/3's

I think it's a good card


I'd rather Onyxia tbh. :p
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Feb 17 2017 07:40pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ 17 Feb 2017 20:37)
I'd rather Onyxia tbh. :p


I don't blame you. its very difficult to tell the power level of a card like this until seen in action
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