Any of those game deciding RNG rolls could have gone the other way once per tournament and he would have 0 tournament wins
Winning does not make you the better player

This post was edited by FroggyG on Feb 12 2017 07:26pm

lol

What happens if he doesn't get the perfect polymorphs from his random spells
He loses the whole tournament and the hype around him doesn't exist
Did he get any better or worse at the game because of that roll? No.
The outcome doesn't matter in determining skill

People see that he wins and claim that it is skill

This post was edited by FroggyG on Feb 12 2017 07:33pm

Froggy unfortunately is void of any understanding when it comes to lines of play - and or to be able to continually make correct lines of play.
And so the skill comes in the form of taking the correct lines more often then not.

But hearthstone isn't about ''skill'' more so as it is about knowledge.
So you can fuck off with your skill bullshit//game is all RNG already.



Have you actually ever played another card game? In poker - unless youre a god - and even if youre a god you're susceptible to the draw.
in MTG there is far more blowout games than hearthstones control vs agro - just based on one player not being able to draw lands alone.
You could even say with that in mind that hearthstone is LESS RNG dependant than MTG. - You have 30 cards vs 45-60 - lands vs Mana crystal.. which do you think has more consistency? and less RNG involved in the pure mulligan?

Again froggyG I can give you dozens of arguments where I honestly think you have very little knowledge on what youre talking about here.

Night.

I watched about 1/2 of the tournament by the way... I feel genuinely bad for the commentators trying to make the whole thing enjoyable during this poor meta blizzard has given us - but they are entertaining ill give them that..

The game son the otherhand were hard to keep my attention on..
Pavel's final 3-0 blowout just made me laugh tbh.

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Feb 12 2017 07:58pm

That's what I'm saying...
The correct line of play can lose due to luck so winning tournaments does not mean you're the best.




I have years of MTG experience
There are so many more decisions in the game that losing a single RNG roll likely won't lose you the game.
The only thing that really loses a game is if you just get 0 land all game.

That statement clearly tells me you have no experience playing in the actual hearthstone meta.
So you have a bias opinion on what these competitive games actually are.

You'd be amazed at how many crucial decisions/plays you need to make in any of these aggressive mirrors.
Magic only gives you the illusion of 'more decisions' through selecting blockers.

I've been playing MTG since just before revised.. - my brother is 10 years older than I am and made me a deck with his extra cards. I've been playing for well over 20 years. I can say I feel the rng in mtg without a doubt.

I think the main reason why i'll defend hearthstone from your bs/take the opposing side to the argument because my love for CCG's.

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This post was edited by Hepzibah on Feb 12 2017 08:04pm

I mean an entire game of Hearthstone can be decided on whether a coin flame juggler (Turn 1) hits a 1 drop or not... Especially in arena.
Also I'm talking about the game as a whole not just the current meta.

More turns = more interactions and choices
More skill

Plus the cards don't have RNG embedded into them (not since earlier MTG sets)

This post was edited by FroggyG on Feb 12 2017 08:06pm

an entire game of MTG can be decided on if you topdeck a land on turns 2-3.

your point?

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Feb 12 2017 08:06pm

Agree. That's the only major thing in MTG, like I said.
But you're not going to play a card that may or may not do something useful and may or may not win or lose the game.
Sucks when you don't even know what your cards do.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Feb 12 2017 08:11pm