i've spent literally $0 on my account.
someone paying thousands of dollars wont make them favored to win against me

if you were playing on a brand new account that would make them extremely favored.

which doesnt really mean anything for determining whether a game is p2w or not.
the cards can be acquired for free.

*sigh*

The entire concept behind pay to win is that you pay in either:
- exorbitant amounts of time
- money

Exorbitant: (of a price or amount charged) unreasonably high.

An "unreasonably high" amount of time is NOT required to build a competitive deck.




"Is there any item that you can buy only with real money that gives you a huge advantage over your f2p opponent? NO! "

Some time investment being required to obtain items is not unreasonable or unique to hearthstone and does not make it pay to win.
Its merely 'pay to avoid having to put in as much time to get cards, which are all obtainable through free-to-play'.

Above a certain low threshold additional money spent doesn't even help.
Ooh you can make your cards shiny. Good on ya.

There are many instances of people reaching legend in the first month of f2p accounts, with countless people being competitive on f2p or low-pay accounts over longer periods.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 21 2016 02:17am

wow is p2w
d2 is p2w
poe is p2w
and the list goes on and on

come on lol, it doesnt make any sense
"oh no i have to actually play the game to unlock more of its content"

yeah, not having everything the second you fire up the game is a ridiculous standard for p2w

some of us... (brace yourself)... work, have social lives, and have family

The concept of "earning" things in games that you could otherwise buy is p2w. I quit Diablo altogether, but Hearthstone got me. I prefer games that you can get into from the get-go, and not have to waste time unlocking things. The whole point of a game is it's down-time. I don't need to "earn" anything in a game... anyone who feels they need to do that is clearly not very accomplished in life.

This post was edited by Canadian_Man on Dec 21 2016 04:07am

You are inserting your own ridiculous standard in the stead of the accepted definition of p2w.
..and then adding in your own arrogant view demeaning people who like to play games differently than you, which also has no bearing on whether a game is p2w or not.

collecting cards faster =/= winning

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 21 2016 04:24am

I've said this before and i'll say it again.

Anyone who thinks hearthstone is pay to win needs to play stronghold kingdoms. A game where 10 or so millionaires will run every server because they don't mind pissing away 10k in one night to advance themselves in the game / fuck your shit up at a ridiculous pace.

Watched one of them achieve what took me months of waiting (simply just waiting on upgrade time nothing i could do to make this process faster) in a single night. LOL

About a week later he lost all his villages and did the same thing again. rofl

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Dec 21 2016 05:15am