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Nov 17 2016 12:27pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Nov 17 2016 12:24pm)
i don't want to argue this point out further than we need to. if you don't want to think outside the box with me i'll just get bored of replying and continue myself.

this deck already is because i made it such. if it's easier to think of it this way...
what 6 cards would you change to this deck if you could only change 6?


Your deck is bad, structurally.
Not individual cards.


This post was edited by FroggyG on Nov 17 2016 12:28pm
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Nov 17 2016 12:40pm
Quote (FroggyG @ Nov 17 2016 01:27pm)
Your deck is bad, structurally.
Not individual cards.


that's fine by me. any non-cookie cutters have some input?
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Nov 17 2016 12:58pm
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that's fine by me. any non-cookie cutters have some input?


Start by removing jaraxxus and dread infernal
Jaraxxus expensive and dread infernal kills half your own minions since you seem to love 1 health minions against all the warriors that are being played

This post was edited by FroggyG on Nov 17 2016 12:58pm
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Nov 17 2016 12:58pm
it's hard to help you if we dont know the cards you own
can you list your epics and legendary (neutral and warlock)
it might help

as midrange warlock, your best bet is most likely dragons (with or without malygos)
do you have the 2/6 that becomes a 3/6 taunt if you hold a dragon ?
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Nov 17 2016 01:05pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ 17 Nov 2016 19:40)
that's fine by me. any non-cookie cutters have some input?


Yeah.

Slamming some random cards in a deck is not "thinking outside of box".
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the summoning stone becomes a good option around play 7+ if i still need to clean the field as i can also get some extra spawn in

How about you clean the board and play an actual 6 cost minion, instead of getting a random 4 mana one? (Hellfire/shadowflame) Even if for some reason the stone survives till your next turn, you don't have any decent spells to actually benefit from it.

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it's just not taking me to as many consistent wins as i'd like to see.


Guess why? Because you are trying to be a unique snowflake by doing sub-optimal choices. Your early game isn't threatening enough. Your end game isn't threatening enough. You don't really have any combos.
Sure you can get wins with good opening hands and topdecks, but the thing is: this deck wont be consistent. You are trying to be both sprinter and distance runner, while using crutches.

That being said, I have nothing against decks that aren't "cookie cutter". For all I care you can play a deck built around renounce the darkness or silence priest or whatever taunt warrior you find fun. It's just the fact that the cards in your deck need to synergise with each other. You need to have some sort of win condition and game plan.
This particular deck just really has no purpose. It's way too messy and really concentrates on nothing.
Good luck.
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Nov 17 2016 01:30pm
I mean...... OP trying to argue that his piece of crap deck is functional...
So I guess he doesn't really want help with it..

Read cam's post carefully; its really the only post in this thread you need to read/understand.


You did post looking for help too.. You need to be willing to take criticism, if you want help.

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Nov 17 2016 01:31pm
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Nov 17 2016 02:02pm
Quote (Troll @ Nov 17 2016 01:58pm)
it's hard to help you if we dont know the cards you own
can you list your epics and legendary (neutral and warlock)
it might help

as midrange warlock, your best bet is most likely dragons (with or without malygos)
do you have the 2/6 that becomes a 3/6 taunt if you hold a dragon ?


i'll look through what i have for epic+ and dragons and edit that in to this post shortly

epic:
pit lord / djinni of zephyrs *2 / faceless manipulator / naga sea witch *2 / validated doomsayer / blood of the ancient one / molten giant
legendary:
lord jaraxxus / sir finley mrrgglton / brann bronzebeard / elise starseeker / emperor thaurissan / reno jackson / arch-thief rafaam / c'thun
dragons:
faerie dragon *2 / midnight drake *2 / twilight drake / azure drake
i do not have the dragon you are talking of. however, i recently acquired sunfury protector. this would give me the ability to throw a couple low cost taunt minions out while still holding the ability of taunt.

Quote (Hepzibah @ Nov 17 2016 02:30pm)
I mean...... OP trying to argue that his piece of crap deck is functional...
So I guess he doesn't really want help with it..

Read cam's post carefully; its really the only post in this thread you need to read/understand.


You did post looking for help too.. You need to be willing to take criticism, if you want help.


i do not mean to belittle cam's post. he stated clearly his opinion and reason behind certain cards in example.
however, i also responded to it with clear benefits of why i was using some of those cards in this deck. i am not saying i cannot switch them out, but i do have reasons behind each card used atm.
even froggy's first post had some reasoning behind it.

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Nov 17 2016 02:17pm
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Nov 17 2016 02:05pm
Quote (Hepzibah @ Nov 17 2016 09:30pm)
I mean...... OP trying to argue that his piece of crap deck is functional...
So I guess he doesn't really want help with it..

Read cam's post carefully; its really the only post in this thread you need to read/understand.


You did post looking for help too.. You need to be willing to take criticism, if you want help.


he just want to see his opinion written from another person's account like most ppl on the internet needing "advice".

Dude, check hearthpwn, practice the decks you like from there, play a lot of games with a set of similar decks, then create one, inspired by what you want to do. Don't just jam cards together and call it "awesome selfmade deck needs improvements without changing any card", because that's kind of what you are doing right now...
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Nov 17 2016 02:42pm
i removed the 2 tidefins in exchange for sunfury. keeps taunt option low on mana cost and allowed me to add faceless manipulator. most of my losses come from high-cost game changing minions, this gives me another option to even the playing field when this happens.
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Nov 18 2016 06:17am
I like the Spreading Madness + Grim Patron idea.. The rest of the deck is pretty questionable though..

I would rebuild it into a Reno Jackson deck, keeping the Spreading Madness + Patron combo for flavour, if I were you.
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