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Oct 30 2015 12:45pm
ye for a 4 drop it kills 2 yettis, shreder only kills one.
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Oct 30 2015 01:54pm
6 health is pretty hard to remove for that mana cost. Think of it like Deathlord.
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Oct 30 2015 02:23pm
Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ Oct 30 2015 02:54pm)
6 health is pretty hard to remove for that mana cost. Think of it like Deathlord.


I think a better comparison would be water elemental
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Oct 30 2015 02:27pm
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I think a better comparison would be water elemental


True. God I fucking hate Water Ele as paladin lol.

I just say Deathlord because 8 health is difficult as hell for the mana cost.
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Yes, it's way better than shredder in arena. Most classes cannot deal with a 4 mana 5-6 (avg) on turn 4


It's certainly not way better, it's probably not even better in most cases. Both are very close in value.
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Oct 30 2015 11:35pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Oct 30 2015 09:45pm)
It's certainly not way better, it's probably not even better in most cases. Both are very close in value.


Vs classes that aren't mage, priest or shamen it's strictly better than piloted shredder in arena (because those classes have hard removals that are commons). It's not better than fire elemental but it's near the same value, and fire elemental is a top 10 arena card.
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Oct 31 2015 08:18am
Quote (oWntpWnt @ Oct 31 2015 12:35am)
Vs classes that aren't mage, priest or shamen it's strictly better than piloted shredder in arena (because those classes have hard removals that are commons). It's not better than fire elemental but it's near the same value, and fire elemental is a top 10 arena card.



Hmmm. Is it not better than fire elemental? It I had to chose between the two of them I would probably pick fire guard.. Coining it out on 3 is insane and I've had three arenas where I drafted 4 of them and each one went 12 wins.. Like I said a 7-6 for 4 is insane... So insane the overload doesn't matter.
6-6 for 4 is just as insane as it destroys their yeti and 5-6 or 4-6 5 drop

Even a at its worst it's still a 4-6.. There's no drawback at all.. and in the games where I play turn 4 fire guard turn 5 fire guard it's normally too much for them to handle

As for the shreader argument I would never pick shreader over fire guard.. Shreader can die to a 2 drop you couldn't kill and some of the deathrattles you get from it (doomsayers / parot / novice) are awful.. Even when you get succubus or millhouse can you really say it is better?

Imagine it being a non class card.. Imagine Druid turn one coin innervate fire guard.. Impossible to deal with and trade value is well worth losing turn 2
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Hmmm. Is it not better than fire elemental? It I had to chose between the two of them I would probably pick fire guard.. Coining it out on 3 is insane and I've had three arenas where I drafted 4 of them and each one went 12 wins.. Like I said a 7-6 for 4 is insane... So insane the overload doesn't matter.
6-6 for 4 is just as insane as it destroys their yeti and 5-6 or 4-6 5 drop

Even a at its worst it's still a 4-6.. There's no drawback at all.. and in the games where I play turn 4 fire guard turn 5 fire guard it's normally too much for them to handle

As for the shreader argument I would never pick shreader over fire guard.. Shreader can die to a 2 drop you couldn't kill and some of the deathrattles you get from it (doomsayers / parot / novice) are awful.. Even when you get succubus or millhouse can you really say it is better?

Imagine it being a non class card.. Imagine Druid turn one coin innervate fire guard.. Impossible to deal with and trade value is well worth losing turn 2


Youre forgetting to factor in the overload. Fire ele >
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