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Mar 15 2013 04:58pm
Quote (Canoobian @ Mar 15 2013 04:02pm)
after getting over my initial blush of the game, ive determined its a terrible game.

It has glaring failures all over the place. Zero meaningful character progression or depth, massive lags, uninteresting world bosses, meaningless quests that literally have 0 reward for doing. All in all its nothing but wasted potential.


Give it time

I enjoyed it when I was playing didn't expect it was gonna be mine blowing

I'm glad I didn't get the ultimate pack b4 playing tho

But I might if they show they will be adding new content weekly like PoE
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Mar 15 2013 06:22pm
Quote (Canoobian @ Mar 15 2013 10:02pm)
after getting over my initial blush of the game, ive determined its a terrible game.

It has glaring failures all over the place. Zero meaningful character progression or depth, massive lags, uninteresting world bosses, meaningless quests that literally have 0 reward for doing. All in all its nothing but wasted potential.


I hope this is an opinion that the game is horrible due to thing that most games figure out during a beta. They didn't give a release date of next month or anytime soon.

Also what games have you recently played that had meaningful character progression or depth?

Also wouldn't you expect to run into massive lag spikes or server lag during a beta test?

What is it you would like to see happen during world bosses? I can't think of one game that actually had an interesting world boss fight besides a long time consuming easy fight.

What game have you recently played that doesn't have meaningless quests?
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Mar 15 2013 06:33pm
oh boy, fanboys inc!

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I hope this is an opinion that the game is horrible due to thing that most games figure out during a beta. They didn't give a release date of next month or anytime soon.


while they havnt given a release date they also havnt done any content patches in close to 3 months now. When they are doing nothing but bug fixes and server work its a good suggestion on what phase of the beta they think they are on.

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Also wouldn't you expect to run into massive lag spikes or server lag during a beta test?

you expect to run into them but not to expect them as par for the course. ive beta tested probably close to a hundred games at this point and at no point did their betas suffer from the crippling lag marvel heroes do

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What is it you would like to see happen during world bosses? I can't think of one game that actually had an interesting world boss fight besides a long time consuming easy fight.

so when every other game does it terribly, you should too? good logic bro.

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What game have you recently played that doesn't have meaningless quests?

any game at all where theres a reward for doing it. In marvel heroes there is literally 0 reward, like none ... at all. How does that make any sense?
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Mar 15 2013 08:20pm
Quote (Canoobian @ Mar 16 2013 12:33am)
oh boy, fanboys inc!



while they havnt given a release date they also havnt done any content patches in close to 3 months now. When they are doing nothing but bug fixes and server work its a good suggestion on what phase of the beta they think they are on.


you expect to run into them but not to expect them as par for the course. ive beta tested probably close to a hundred games at this point and at no point did their betas suffer from the crippling lag marvel heroes do


so when every other game does it terribly, you should too? good logic bro.


any game at all where theres a reward for doing it. In marvel heroes there is literally 0 reward, like none ... at all. How does that make any sense?


Perhaps you are taking me the wrong way as if I were a standard troll on JSP.

I am far from your statement of "being a fan boy" whatever that even refers too.

I have interest in the game and I would like to keep a positive outlook and provide good feed back on their forums to hope improve the game.

Rather then being a fool and quick to judge it as a bad game.

I see that you state you have played hundred of beta games, but name one that was clean from the start?

D2 didn't even attract a ton of players until the xpansion. I myself personally liked classic and still do to this day. However the game was never great, it had a ton of flaws like every other game.

Even some of the most successful games out there like league of legends, world of warcraft, and guild wars all have tons of flaws.

I think if you feel that this game should be able to make world bosses better or have more meaningful quest, you should go make a game. I would love to see that how many complaints you get yourself.

All you do is bash a beta, without seeing finished content and make poor judgments. You should be on their forums encouraging new updates and ideas, while reporting bugs. .

I was hoping to get some realistic and logical answers back in regards to it, but instead you just rant like a normal jsp troll.


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Sense you were so quick to call me Fan boy without even knowing my true opinion on the game.

I would like to show you how retarted you are in this thread alone where you didn't even bother to read the guy's first post and tried to rant with me there too.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66731555&f=208

Grow up, gain some knowledge, and learn to read. Cut it out with the childish assumptions / comments.


This post was edited by motox831 on Mar 15 2013 08:22pm
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Perhaps you are taking me the wrong way as if I were a standard troll on JSP.

I am far from your statement of "being a fan boy" whatever that even refers too.


it refers to you jumping in to defend a game by not defending the game based on its merits but rather attack the person giving it a negative review, which youve continued to do in your post here.

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D2 didn't even attract a ton of players until the xpansion. I myself personally liked classic and still do to this day. However the game was never great, it had a ton of flaws like every other game.

did you even do any research before posting this load of crap? Diablo 2 at release held the record for the fastest selling game and had one of the largest player bases at the time.

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Even some of the most successful games out there like league of legends, world of warcraft, and guild wars all have tons of flaws.

sure, and people arnt shy about voicing their opinions about these shortcomings. Can you disagree with them? sure. Do they have a reason to not voice these opinions? Nope.

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All you do is bash a beta, without seeing finished content and make poor judgments.

What content do you expect to change at this point? They have done nothing but patch fixes and releasing heroes with skills that mostly mirror the ones who have come before it. You call my judgements poor but the only time youve actually refered to them was agreeing with my view of their world bosses.

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I would like to show you how retarted you are in this thread alone where you didn't even bother to read the guy's first post and tried to rant with me there too.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66731555&f=208


your example of me being retarded is you going into a thread posted by a guy looking for single player PC games and giving him a list of games that dont have single player options in them. Good job.

This post was edited by Canoobian on Mar 15 2013 09:07pm
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it refers to you jumping in to defend a game by not defending the game based on its merits but rather attack the person giving it a negative review, which youve continued to do in your post here.


At what point did I defend? I was seeking answers in regards to you stating the game wasn't good without a true reasoning behind it.
The only portion of what I wrote that was even kind of defending was the fact that I felt your complaints were based on beta. I don't judge games that are in the early stages of beta.
Even if I did defend a game in no way does that make me a fan boy. I haven't fell in love with a game sense COD4 and D2.


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did you even do any research before posting this load of crap? Diablo 2 at release held the record for the fastest selling game and had one of the largest player bases at the time

No research needed. Counter Strike was released at the same time as Diablo 2 and had a bigger success then Diablo 2 did. Feel free to try and google that.
It was "One" of the most popular games, but didn't reach the top until LOD was released the following year.
Not only that did you bother to play on release of Diablo 2 and experience the lag issues they experienced with the servers which a ton of players complained about? I could easily take the time to find you links to bring this into a E-Peen status which you obviously are trying to achieve.

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sure, and people arnt shy about voicing their opinions about these shortcomings. Can you disagree with them? sure. Do they have a reason to not voice these opinions? Nope

Of course, I was actually looking for you to voice your opinion. I was just trying to look for solid reasoning behind your opinions. I myself have enjoyed the content I have played in the game and can't wait to see more.

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What content do you expect to change at this point? They have done nothing but patch fixes and releasing heroes with skills that mostly mirror the ones who have come before it. You call my judgements poor but the only time youve actually refered to them was agreeing with my view of their world bosses

I do agree with you that the world bosses suck, but every game that has world bosses suck. Example: I am playing tera with a buddy. We can duo every World Boss we encounter a lot easier then their BAM monsters. Same with Rift or any other game that has world bosses. NOBODY has made the effort toward world bosses, so therefor this cannot be your reasoning behind the game being "bad".

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your example of me being retarded is you going into a thread posted by a guy looking for single player PC games and giving him a list of games that dont have single player options in them. Good job.

My example is more then enough. It points out that you can't still seem to admit his "ISO" also said he didn't care if there was multiplayer. He ended up taking my word and tried out POE.

This is my last post in this thread because Criaric is a good buddy of mine and I don't want to spam his thread. I will PM you my next reply to your bullshit. Even though all I was looking for was a legit opinion / thoughts toward the game mechanics in which it makes it worse than any other game out there.

This post was edited by motox831 on Mar 15 2013 10:32pm
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Mar 15 2013 10:36pm
I've only seen videos, but this game looks epic. I've applied for a key, but if i get denied I'm ISO a beta key.

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Mar 15 2013 11:25pm
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No research needed. Counter Strike was released at the same time as Diablo 2 and had a bigger success then Diablo 2 did. Feel free to try and google that.


ignoring the rest of your crap, "It was awarded a spot in the Guinness Book of World Records 2000 edition for being the fastest selling computer game ever sold, with more than 1 million units sold in the first two weeks of availability"
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ignoring the rest of your crap, "It was awarded a spot in the Guinness Book of World Records 2000 edition for being the fastest selling computer game ever sold, with more than 1 million units sold in the first two weeks of availability"


Your right, but it also didn't become Computer Game of the Year Until (2001). Which is what we are arguing about correct?

Or are we comparing that D2 sold more copies then Marvel will? If so at what point did the argument change to that.
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Quote (motox831 @ Mar 16 2013 01:36am)
Your right, but it also didn't become Computer Game of the Year Until (2001). Which is what we are arguing about correct?

Or are we comparing that D2 sold more copies then Marvel will? If so at what point did the argument change to that.


the fact that a fledgling game would even be consided in the same conversation as a game like diablo 2 speaks to its potential......keep the comparisons coming so the game can be huge, I really love this premise and I'd prefer it didn't die.
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