thanks I'll check out wildstar I've already heard some about it. I gave tera a shot and I'm liking it so far but I like sidescrollers more than any 3d mmos. Maplestory in it's early days before it was ruined by massive updates and a cash shop was my favorite mmo, that kinda play style was my all time favorite so if anyone knows of anything similar already out or anything like that coming out in the near future that would be cool. Also one big thing I'm looking for in any non sidescrolling mmos is the option to use a controller, I hate having my hand on a mouse all day so anything heavily keyboard reliant or with the option for a controller would be a plus