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May 6 2012 02:36pm
NOTE BEFORE REPOST: If you guys want to try this but are currently banned/ permabanned from dotalicious, google TMAC, it should fix all your problems ;)


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So I quit dota a while ago since I don't have time to play games anymore and also since I can get access to Dota2 beta if I want to and its much better

So I've trolled a bunch of games and been a complete retard / flame instigator / generally dickhead player for about a couple of weeks now whenever I'm bored. Every time of course I bait people into flaming me / raging / spam pinging / whatever. Then every time after I report them and they get a penalty which takes 6 weeks to dissapear (sometimes more) and they also get banned/muted

Question is, isn't this the stupidest system ever? Someone can play very well and tell some random noob who is ruining their lane / stealing their farm / stealing their kills to "fuck off" or "fuck you" and the noob can report and BAM good player = instant banned.

I figured since I had been on the receiving side of that for so long I'd give trolling a go, and honestly its much funner. Sometimes you lose because you're playing like a retard, and then you just report anyone who flamed you and watch them get banned. Sometimes you win despite being a retard and still report and kids still get banned for essentially being human. Awesome system.

What I've basically learned is as long as you have even a semi-legitimate reason fora report, the moderators will NEVER decline to give the reportee a penalty. In fact, even if you are blatantly baiting the guy into breaking rules by just being a general douchebag / gameruiner, the mods will not give you any blowback penalties and will just go after the guy you reported as long as you didn't break any rules yourself. So basically, I just go around games pretending to have an IQ of 20 and picking retarded heroes, buying retarded items, going to a retarded lane for the situation, and saying retarded things in chat / baiting my teammates into flaming me. Here are the results so far:


Game 1

http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?action=dota;area=game&game=396203

Here I play retard dusa, buy out all dusts, never come to teamfights, farm + feed a bunch ( I picked her after enemy AM pick LOL). Also I harass the poor N'aix in chat all game but I never explicitly flame so he can't report me. At end of game we lose and I report N'aix + some random on other team who starting bragging / flaming in all chat (after I instigated him of course). N'aix gets a ban + big penalty, random guy gets muted 1 day ingame and penalty.


Game 2

http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?action=dota;area=game&game=395660

Fucking HILARIOUS game. I enter a CM game and keep begging for solo mid / trilane carry. Capt. gets so pissed off at my constant caps lock begging he flames me then speaks some foreign language (2 report points right there), then insults my mother (+1 report point) and finally asks me what hero I want. Of course I answer "BARATUM BARA BARABRABABRA". So he finally ends up picking it. When time comes for players to pick heroes, I pick the mid solo Nevermore reserved for the sL3 player on the team and just go mid. I get massive flame of course from captain + some other guys. I dominate my lane ofc and go fast lothars then go and KS around the map while instigating Captain to flame me more. Of course he gets a double penalty 13.0 of 14 flame 09. Oct 2011 - 13:40 in Game #395660.


Game 3

http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?action=dota;area=game&game=401276

Ok so here I do the biggest dickhead move of all time. Destroyer with force staff + astral imprisonment taking Spectre's solo lane and spamming spells on her so she can't get any CK. Spectres goes absolutely MENTAL and spam pings for the entire game on me since I'm being such a douche. I get her killed like 3 times with my imprisons, each time using the excuse "OMG was trying to save u SRY" or "need mana sry man". I report the kid afterwards of course, and despite my spell spam and obvious instigation, I get nothing (since I never explicitly broke rules and made excuses to justify my use of spell griefing) whereas spec gets a fucking TRIPLE penalty 19.8 of 20 spamming ping again 10. Oct 2011 - 18:16 in Game #401276 and of course this: This user has been banned for 5 days. (4 days, 17 hours, 54 minutes remain). This user has been muted ingame for 7 days. (2 days, 0 hours, 51 minutes remain).


Game 4

http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?action=dota;area=game&game=353791

Probably my 2nd best trolling achievement. I follow this MyHorseIsAmazin kid to like 20 game lobbies. I ruined a game for him before so he tries hard to dodge me, but eventually I manage to sneak in. Then I go QoP, miss all my ultis, take his lane, never call miss, and instigate him to flame me. Of course, he gets mad since he's losing his precious winrate and potentially skill level. Then, to make sure he loses his skill level I report him and get him another penalty so he has to play 101 more games to get back to where he was (or wait 6 weeks). LOL.


Game 5


http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?action=dota;area=game&game=305466

My biggest troll achievement by far. I get this team of 4 friends who are all fairly good players and who are French (bonus points for being able to report them just for speaking their native language). The leader of the group wants to go mid so what do I do? Obviously I pick tuskarr and head for mid lane while only saying in chat 'tuskar mid, tuskar bash' like 20 times. Kid gets ultra mad and starts spamming me in French, flaming me in English, and insulting my mother in German. We end up winning the game even though I feed every 2 minutes and get 1 creep kill / minute max while also never buying any support items. After the game I report this guy and he gets a MASSIVE penalty + like 9 day long ban. 3.8 of 14 flame 14. Sep 2011 - 17:02 in Game #343267. Whenever I even join the lobby of a game this kid is in without taking a seat he just instantly leaves because he knows I'll troll him / fuck up his penalties over and over again. Super eZ.


Thoughts/comments?
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May 6 2012 02:40pm
Latest triumph:

http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?action=dota;area=game&game=405786

I see enemy team pick a bunch of heroes with heavy nukes / slows / stuns. The types of heroes who own squishy heroes with no escape mechanism and low hp pool / movement speed. So of course, I pick Sniper. Soloing mid against NS I do well, but I choose midas as first item so I'm bound to die alot as soon as night time comes. I feed a bunch all over the map and team gets super raged at me. Each time I reply "dude I have midas I don't lose any gold when I die". Obviously this statement is totally retarded, but hey that's the plan right? In the times I'm dead I also instigate NS to flame me by implying he's a bad player and that I am really good, but by never saying anything that could be construed as flame so I cannot get reported.

Despite my feeding my team manages to turn the game around since BB is very farmed. I killsteal a bunch of kills and buy a lothars, then I spout in all chat "OMG I CAN'T DIE I HAVE LOTHAR SEE?". And each time I die I just say "NP I don't lose gold, I got midas". At this point NS gets super raged because he's losing to a player seemingly as bad as me. So after I egg him on a few times he starts flaming / making threats. Guess what I do? REPORT REPORT REPORT

http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/index.php?action=profile;u=48652

Muted + a penalty that lasts 6 weeks? Sounds good to me. Btw, mute is probably more annoying that being flat out banned since you can't communicate with the retards on your team AT ALL and you are basically unable to solo mid / get a courier / ask for ganks, etc. Another one bites the dust
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May 7 2012 05:10am
I think I'm one of the few people to ever get a ban from Aussie for "being a retard". Clearly, he saw my post on d2jsp and got mad.
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May 7 2012 06:12pm
On a serious and perhaps far too intellectual note for this forum, I'm going to take a break from discussing professional trolling itself and fixate on WHY the type of trolling I do actually works on Dotalicious. Now, you might think "but Smack, nobody gives a fuck about Dotalicious, its pretty much dead now". Well, you might be right, but the fact is there's a recurring pattern found in many gaming communities/clients of which Dotalicious is merely an example. To understand the reason why trolling like this works, and why most of these platforms such as Dotalicious, Dota-League (RIP), TDA, HoN, DR.IH/COMM on RGC, etc. punish the good players and reward the bad players and/or trolls, you must identify which parties are doing the punishing/rewarding. Clearly, the moderators / unpaid volunteers are the ones that ban players in the vast majority of these platforms. "Well no shit Smack, OBVIOUSLY moderators review cases and ban people, and these guys are unpaid volunteers from the community. So?". Well, we have to look one level deeper. Firstly, a vast majority of the time, the moderators are people who actually play the game, right? Now, in a very generalized sense, there are two kinds of players:

- Good Players.
There are many different types of good players, and many different reasons why people excel at game. However, they can be summarized as follows: they enjoy playing the game, and have invested alot of time into it. Many of them are at least fairly intelligent in real life, allowing them to make better decisions in strategy-type games (such as dota), and to learn new concepts / metagames quicker. They may play the game copiously or infrequently, but either way they have a certain level of skill they like to use against their opponents, and in general play the game for the game itself, and to try to outplay the opposition. They play to win and enjoy the essence of the game and the challenges / excitement it brings, and that is generally enough for them, meaning they do not often seek boring, superfluous positions such as that of a mediator.

-Bad Players. These are split into two categories:
=Casual gamers. These guys suck at the game, but they don't care. They play very rarely, and when they do they don't really play to win or lose, just for the fun of it and to kill some time here and there. They never devote real dedication to the game, so they clearly don't bother applying for positions which would require them to invest large amounts of time, such as a mediator / unpaid volunteer.

And, ladies and gentlemen, this is where we get to our final category, which also brings us to a stunning realization:

=Bad, yet addicted/ no-life / unintelligent players. These guys spend lots of time on the game, but never seem to excel. Perhaps they aren't really trying to learn, and simply have nothing better to do. You have to ask yourself, "how can someone spend thousands of hours on a game, yet still be terrible?". Well, the answer, sadly, is they are just dumb, and have several negative traits which prevent them from succeeding in various areas. They are often anti-social, unintelligent, and lack creativity, meaning many aspects of their lives suffer, including gaming. They play many hours a day, but find themselves mostly being frustrated / losing, or getting carried. They'll often pay for lessons from pro players, will spend lots of money for any in-game / cosmetic advantages to feel special, and in general are a fairly pathetic form of human life. Unlike the two aforementioned examples, these players are PERFECT candidates for moderators. They have hours to kill, want to feel special / in-power, want attention and respect they don't get in real life, and want to be able to boss around / play with better players to feel like they are good at the game.


Now, let's focus on this final category of player. Since they are pretty much the only type of people who are dumb enough to waste hours of their lives moderating some no-name dota community or trash game forum for no pay whatsoever, they make up a very overwhelming majority of the moderator / unpaid volunteer pool. Because they aren't too bright IRL, and don't have much social experience or a well-rounded life in general, their judgement is often lacking and incompetent. They will follow the rule book explicitly to the point of stupidity, because they are unable to exercise discretion or logical reasoning. This hurts good players, because if someone is carrying a game hard and some idiot is feeding 0-25 on his team, the moderator will go ahead and ban the good player for flaming the baddie, while leaving the obvious troll untouched, because "the good player broke rules explicity, the bad player didn't".

and THAT, boys and girls, is what I base my trolling off of. I haven't trolled more than 20 Dotalicious games in my life, but each time I have gone uncaught and have inflicted huge punishments upon my teammates/enemies who certainly did not deserve them, given that I was obviously being a huge prick and trolling as hard as I could in an attempt to instigate them. To truly succeed at it, I've found, all you need to do is understand the PSYCHOLOGY of the people who will ultimately be passing judgement (the moderators). Once you do, you can cater your trolling to ensure they act as you want them do. They'll think they're doing their job correctly, they'll think they are in power, that they have control and that they are the "big men" regulating the community. But in reality, they are succumbing to your every whim, and acting just as you want them to, without even knowing it.

Hopefully, after reading all this (TLDR, I know) you will understand the core principles behind trolling in communities such as Dotalicious, and will be able to use them to take advantage of clueless, lowly moderators for your own amusement. Best of luck.

This post was edited by sMACKTRiCKz on May 7 2012 06:13pm
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