For alchemist,morph and chen

Morph is a few wraiths, bottle, and then BoT, for mass farming. Then build up Diffusal then manta and win the game. After those, any luxury will do.

Chen is basically Aghamins. Ring of the Basilius is also handy for chen. If you are in a push build, you can grab HoTD for an additional creep.

Alche is an odd hero and can fit into a lot of niches. He farms decently and can jungle well by level 6. Your best bet is to probably go for a hood and something to support your mana, as he can spam a lot. After that, he can tank it up and upgrade to pipe.

This post was edited by deathbypepsi on Jul 26 2009 05:22pm

could give u full strats skills early build and late build but i charge 5fg per hero Ive been helping ppl out with their builds for too long i need some fgs also

I usually go for 2 wraiths, pthreads, S&Y or HoD, hyperstone, crystalys. Dependant on S&Y or HoD, I'll be getting some more agility or flat out damage through random items.

Mart

Alch is pretty easy, i usually get a sobi>Rob>vlads for spamming his stun. then i usually get phase boots even though travels are way more convenient if you want to GG farm

after that you can get pretty much anything that you want since he can tank/regen/run away like a beast with his ult and easily farm with greed+acid so whatever my next few items are they're purely situational

what a spawn

Anyone know a build for tb?and dark seer?

for DS i get

Vanguard (adds some nice hp/reduction if u wanna run around with shell)
phase
radiance
shivas

usually gg by then but any other luxury item will pretty much do if need be

TB almost always should jungle, as he's worthless in a lane. He's actually a bit complicated when it comes to jungling, as he is a viable suicider. Although, I don't actually know how much quelling/PMS might have changed this strategy; it's quite old. PMS/Quelling early on + some wraiths. After that, get Diffusal and then Manta (Shift queing the images so they get Metamorphosis) . I'd say BoT is usually the way to go considering his playstyle, but treads are always nice on him. It's important to note that with this build you're getting getting a level of image to start, then you go stats for levels 2/3/5, with a level of metamorphosis thrown in at 4, extra HPs is nice. Get your ulti at 6 and after that start leveling up images again. After you've maxed them, go for metamorphosis and max it. Never skip levels of sunder; it's very nice. After you've made your core items, you should win. If the game drags, get items accordingly. Heart is quite handy for images, if you find them and yourself dying to fast. A Buriza is also very nice if you just need to destroy things a bit faster.

Dark seer has the unique ability of farming incredibly well. He's a great jungler, and he can be decent in a lane. If you go to the jungle, a single stout will do; if you upgrade it, go PMS, although you shouldn't need too. He can be built in several ways, depending on what your team needs and how well you farm. A fairly standard build would be Phase/Pipe/Shiva or Guinsoo. Alternatively, a rushed guinsoo or radiance can be handy on DS, depending on who you're fighting. He can be used as a counter pusher to brood/chen with Midas/Radiance and BoT. He can consume a lot of mana spamming, so early voidstone or having CM on your team can be handy.

I've tried Vanguard on him, and while it has merit, if you're playing with a decently coordinated team, he doesn't need it. Hood/Pipe is usually better anyways, unless you tower dive consistently, which can happen if you're pub stomping.

This post was edited by deathbypepsi on Jul 27 2009 02:22pm