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Jun 6 2009 04:04pm

Would it be smart to use Vladmirs offering?
And also what would be a better wep, cranium basher or lothars edge?
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Jun 6 2009 04:58pm
Starting with Vlad's is viable- though I would recommend other options, as much of Yurnero's early viability comes through blade storm. Imo- it is better to maximize his ability to use that early than the LL etc. that vlad's offers

Between CB and Lothars- its an easy one for CB to me... though there are better options still.
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Jun 6 2009 05:02pm
Imo, I'd start with +attack speed mods- keep it simple early with Power Treads, then move to Stygian Desolator (which ups your damage through Omni considerably)
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Jun 6 2009 05:29pm
Lothar is viable late game to help get away from others, or suprise the noobs in the forest.

I would start out getting treads/Vlad
Then I would go get Deso like Katiklysm said

After that, I would either go Butterfly or Lothars, depending on the circumstances

Lothar can be good, especially in pubs.
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Jun 6 2009 05:32pm
Quote (Scimish @ Sat, Jun 6 2009, 04:29pm)
Lothar is viable late game to help get away from others, or suprise the noobs in the forest.

I would start out getting treads/Vlad
Then I would go get Deso like Katiklysm said

After that, I would either go Butterfly or Lothars, depending on the circumstances

Lothar can be good, especially in pubs.


i dont think this guy has played anything other than a pub.
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Quote (unghghgh @ Sat, Jun 6 2009, 03:32pm)
i dont think this guy has played anything other than a pub.


And what is so bad about playing pubs?

I don't take games very serious and I have a life, so why should it matter what I play?
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Jun 6 2009 06:25pm
Quote (Scimish @ Sun, 7 Jun 2009, 01:36)
And what is so bad about playing pubs?

I don't take games very serious and I have a life, so why should it matter what I play?


Mistake Nr. 1) "I have a life" excuse: Yes, dota can be a time intensive game. But you dont have to have no life to be good at dota. If you are playing dota for a long time you can easily be better than pub players without giving up your social life. Sometimes, simply using your brain does suffice

Mistake Nr. 2) Thinking pubs arent a bad thing: Being a public game means being with a mix of dumb people, 12 year olds, people with horrible internet connections, beginners and a few people who can play dota and want to pubstomp. The game quality is always horrible and pub games will never get close to real dota, which is a 5on5 TEAM game...

Mistake Nr 3) Your Itembuild: Vladmirs is a horrible starting item. Treads isnt that strong, but possible. Phase just works great with yurnero as you can phase during bladestorm. Desolator is perfectly fine, but lothars is terrible and a waste of money. Butterfly will be pretty hard to farm unless in a pub... No mention of bottle (In any posts in this thread though), no mention of the possibility of going diffusal...
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Jun 6 2009 06:33pm
Quote (Pascal3000 @ Sun, Jun 7 2009, 12:25am)
Mistake Nr. 1) "I have a life" excuse: Yes, dota can be a time intensive game. But you dont have to have no life to be good at dota. If you are playing dota for a long time you can easily be better than pub players without giving up your social life. Sometimes, simply using your brain does suffice

Mistake Nr. 2) Thinking pubs arent a bad thing: Being a public game means being with a mix of dumb people, 12 year olds, people with horrible internet connections, beginners and a few people who can play dota and want to pubstomp. The game quality is always horrible and pub games will never get close to real dota, which is a 5on5 TEAM game...

Mistake Nr 3) Your Itembuild: Vladmirs is a horrible starting item. Treads isnt that strong, but possible. Phase just works great with yurnero as you can phase during bladestorm. Desolator is perfectly fine, but lothars is terrible and a waste of money. Butterfly will be pretty hard to farm unless in a pub... No mention of bottle (In any posts in this thread though), no mention of the possibility of going diffusal...


its nice to know that at least one person knows what they're talking about

seriously on yurnero rush phasers then grab pers and start ganking and hardcore farming for bfury
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Jun 6 2009 08:25pm
kk thankyou all for the help! Im going to try out all your advice. Now i just dont understand how the gear/item stackign works. Can you use two weapons at the same time? Im guessing you can only wear one helmet o,ne chest piece ,one pair of boots ..maybe two rings at once? can soemone clear this up for me :)
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Jun 6 2009 08:38pm
No, you could have 6 weapons if you want.

Just make sure only one of the items has an orb effect.

So Deso and vlad is good
But Deso/sange won't stack.

Sure you can get both items, but the Deso's armor reduce wont work. So its not worth it that way.
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