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Jun 6 2009 10:32am
fuck i hate night elf... how do i beatr them?
i currently use a crypt build but it dont work against night elf they mass archers then huntress thern dryads and gg for me.
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Jun 6 2009 10:42am
"a crypt build" lol

It really depends on map, playstyle, enemy unit composition.

Pure Fiends can work, Ted Style Fiend / Ghoul / Wyrm can work, pure ghoul/garg can work, but needs alot of micro etc.

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Jun 6 2009 11:12am
Quote (Pascal3000 @ Sat, Jun 6 2009, 01:42pm)
"a crypt build" lol

It really depends on map, playstyle, enemy unit composition.

Pure Fiends can work, Ted Style Fiend / Ghoul / Wyrm can work, pure ghoul/garg can work, but needs alot of micro etc.

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if you're 1v1ing on echo isles, mass ghouls + tinker with clockwerk factory is a free win
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Jun 6 2009 11:38am
Quote (Pascal3000 @ Sat, Jun 6 2009, 11:42am)
"a crypt build" lol

It really depends on map, playstyle, enemy unit composition.

Pure Fiends can work, Ted Style Fiend / Ghoul / Wyrm can work, pure ghoul/garg can work, but needs alot of micro etc.

Be more specific


ted style fiend?
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Jun 6 2009 02:07pm
Quote (dude150 @ Sat, 6 Jun 2009, 19:12)
if you're 1v1ing on echo isles, mass ghouls + tinker with clockwerk factory is a free win


absolutly not ...

Quote (DeathDeception @ Sat, 6 Jun 2009, 19:38)
ted style fiend?


TeD is a korean undead player. He recently re-popularised the combo of DeathKnight + Naga + Lich (in that order) with the unit combo Fiends + Ghouls + 1-2 frost wyrms.
You basically focus your fiends + a lich with an orb of corruption on the dryads, your ghouls on archers and the wyrms on bears.
With 3 strong nukes (death coil, lightning and nova) + the slowing power of frost arrows and wyrms breath, you can very easily focus down heros, especially with the armor reduction of the orb.
Ghouls get insane movement speed with frenzy and DKs aura, so you are very mobile and can sourround quite well (which is a technique you should either be able to do, or learn asap).

The problem for new players is that it is fairly micro dependant with different types of units, both melee and ranged, very fragile units (ghouls in general and fiends vs bears) and a tri hero combo. You should always have healing scrolls on you to counter Area of effect spells and keep your ghouls alive.

Also you cant really afford losing units earlygame, as you need atleast an equal army. But if you handle your 50 supply army well, you can keep pressure on an elf player on 60 or 70 supply, which allows you to bank up to 1000 or 2000 gold and then quickly pump out 2-3 wyrms and a good army of fiends.
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Jun 6 2009 07:24pm
Quote (Pascal3000 @ Sat, Jun 6 2009, 03:07pm)
absolutly not ...



TeD is a korean undead player. He recently re-popularised the combo of DeathKnight + Naga + Lich (in that order) with the unit combo Fiends + Ghouls + 1-2 frost wyrms.
You basically focus your fiends + a lich with an orb of corruption on the dryads, your ghouls on archers and the wyrms on bears.
With 3 strong nukes (death coil, lightning and nova) + the slowing power of frost arrows and wyrms breath, you can very easily focus down heros, especially with the armor reduction of the orb.
Ghouls get insane movement speed with frenzy and DKs aura, so you are very mobile and can sourround quite well (which is a technique you should either be able to do, or learn asap).

The problem for new players is that it is fairly micro dependant with different types of units, both melee and ranged, very fragile units (ghouls in general and fiends vs bears) and a tri hero combo. You should always have healing scrolls on you to counter Area of effect spells and keep your ghouls alive.

Also you cant really afford losing units earlygame, as you need atleast an equal army. But if you handle your 50 supply army well, you can keep pressure on an elf player on 60 or 70 supply, which allows you to bank up to 1000 or 2000 gold and then quickly pump out 2-3 wyrms and a good army of fiends.


thank you very much... seriously u hjelped me :)
where can i find info on how these pro players play?

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Jun 6 2009 11:04pm
Quote (DeathDeception @ Sat, Jun 6 2009, 08:24pm)
thank you very much... seriously u hjelped me :)
where can i find info on how these pro players play?


wc3replays.com go to forums undead stategy forums u can ask questions to the members u can also register an account and watch replays of pro players everything u need if u wanna 1v1 solo some time pm me
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Quote (feedmefear @ Sun, 7 Jun 2009, 07:04)
wc3replays.com go to forums undead stategy forums u can ask questions to the members u can also register an account and watch replays of pro players everything u need if u wanna 1v1 solo some time pm me


rofl you cant even spell the site. wcreplays.com

And im staff there, so i would know =)
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Jun 7 2009 05:38am
Quote (Pascal3000 @ Sun, Jun 7 2009, 08:30pm)
rofl you cant even spell the site. wcreplays.com

And im staff there, so i would know =)


pascal is pro :)
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Jun 7 2009 09:46am
man ty guys very much.
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