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Oct 25 2011 07:53pm
Quote (Fooba @ Oct 25 2011 09:39pm)
Nope, still void. Build a bridge and get over it.


bro void dont exist in this game
deal wit it
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Oct 25 2011 09:19pm
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bro void dont exist in this game
deal wit it


damn bro
you got me
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Oct 25 2011 09:35pm
i change mind
skeleton king da best
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Oct 25 2011 11:01pm
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wtf imba
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Oct 25 2011 11:17pm
without void
make a top 3

imo (not in any specifik order) : morph + anitmage , without a doubt, but whos gonna join them as last, weaver or spec? cant decide.
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Oct 26 2011 05:42am
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without void
make a top 3

imo (not in any specifik order) : morph + anitmage , without a doubt, but whos gonna join them as last, weaver or spec? cant decide.


spec. weaver is good because of his range + mobility. he can't really stand toe-to-toe vs most carries though
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Oct 26 2011 06:50am
Quote (waw @ Oct 25 2011 11:52pm)
Ive allrdy admitted i was wrong about my post cus of fast judgement because i just had a good sniper game before that post.
I still dont think mort beats 815 range as a overall dps'er, thats just out of the question.

And ofc im talking about 5v5.

"I suspect you will ignore me as pub players do, and make some arguement like "you can't say she runs away, she has to run at sniper and get hit 1000 times and die". "
facepalm, spare me your bullshit if you have no clue how i am as a person....


Well if we're talking 5v5 then sure sniper is more useful. For yes he's less likely to get nuked/stunned/owned than mort is. Why insulting me for not saying it's 5v5 rather than 1v1? the thread is ridiculously vague.


Quote (waw @ Oct 26 2011 05:17am)
without void
make a top 3

imo (not in any specifik order) : morph + anitmage , without a doubt, but whos gonna join them as last, weaver or spec? cant decide.


Top 3?
Lets presume both team have and AOE ulti, so this is not the main reason why a carry would be better than another and that both teams have ~3 stuns, each time has 2 intel supports,2 strong agi/int semi carries and 1 carry.
my 3 in no particular order (not sure how i would order them):
PL (phantom, not pit lol)
Spec
Medusa. How has she not been mentioned? split shot + manta with decent damage output is seriously sick.
I was really considerring putting riki in here. Sounds silly as "lol riki is pub hero" but smokescreen is awesome, his ulti in a 5v5 forces someone to have dust/wards/gem (not much of a use but something) blink strike to make sure he's attacking and backstab isn't too shabby and works very well with blink strike.


How would morph be top 3 for damage output/usefulness in a 5v5? Heck even sven does more damage and has a useful stun. The point with morph is that morph is actually LIKELY to get 5-6 items in a 60 min game, when most carry heroes probably would be on 4 and morph is more useful early game with 2 nukes.
Spec is defo in there though.
AM is a fair shout and certainly "up there"
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Oct 26 2011 07:47am
nop every1 on this page wrong
ultimate late game carry is jax bro
even after 3 nerfs he still can build glass cannon and hav 4k hp + 150 armor/mr
deal wit it
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Oct 26 2011 10:02am
Quote (mclarke @ 26 Oct 2011 14:50)
Well if we're talking 5v5 then sure sniper is more useful. For yes he's less likely to get nuked/stunned/owned than mort is. Why insulting me for not saying it's 5v5 rather than 1v1? the thread is ridiculously vague.




Top 3?
Lets presume both team have and AOE ulti, so this is not the main reason why a carry would be better than another and that both teams have ~3 stuns, each time has 2 intel supports,2 strong agi/int semi carries and 1 carry.
my 3 in no particular order (not sure how i would order them):
PL (phantom, not pit lol)
Spec
Medusa. How has she not been mentioned? split shot + manta with decent damage output is seriously sick.
I was really considerring putting riki in here. Sounds silly as "lol riki is pub hero" but smokescreen is awesome, his ulti in a 5v5 forces someone to have dust/wards/gem (not much of a use but something) blink strike to make sure he's attacking and backstab isn't too shabby and works very well with blink strike.


How would morph be top 3 for damage output/usefulness in a 5v5? Heck even sven does more damage and has a useful stun. The point with morph is that morph is actually LIKELY to get 5-6 items in a 60 min game, when most carry heroes probably would be on 4 and morph is more useful early game with 2 nukes.
Spec is defo in there though.
AM is a fair shout and certainly "up there"


Actually riki is an insane hero, its just sad people play him cus of the invisi...
Backstab + 5 sec blink and aoe smoke is just insane.

Trust me no one has forgotten Medusa, she is insanely strong, but she do dmg over time while antimage or morph for an example just destroy you right away, which imo will decide the fight cus medusa will be standing alone after every fight cus her team is gone while the other team will have atleast 3 heros back cus medusa cant take someone out as fast as other carry heros.

How is morph not a good hero in a 5v5? there is tons of insane things and usefull things he can do, i could make a list about it but it would first be finished by tomorrow cus it would be that long.
PL ? why, he got nerfed down to 5 ilus max and even before that, he wouldnt be that usefull in teamfights unless he had insane luck by making ilus, you honestly cant put him in top 3 imo.

imo, AM is defently on top 3, he got a 5 sec blink to make him almost imposible to kill unless you have some good heros to counter him, he got insane mana burn attack which if you allrdy max at lvl 7 u will have +64 dmg, you destroy the other teams support heros by 3-4 hits, an insane 50% magic dmg reduce which makes it even harder to kill him, and a ulti to take out someone really fast to make the teamfight 5 vs 4.

i mean, what more can u honestly ask for, he is not only a sick dps'er, but also such a good carry hero overall, he can tank, he can escape, he is on top 3.
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Oct 26 2011 12:16pm
well, i will admit that i haven't cared much from since ~6.70 for changes, as i haven't been playing it at a high enough level for it to matter. So i did not know about the nerf in PL, although consider this, why was he nerfed? trust me, with 8 illusions it got pretty ridiculous. The point about PL though was his nuke spawning an illusion, this was ULTRA useful as the nuke itself did decent damage, the illusions attack is pretty strong and when you get radi, it was an amazing skill and excellent at harassing before a fight.
How would he need "luck" creating illusions? with manta + doppelwalk + lance, at 20% (after ulti upgrades it) chance of spawning illusions per hit, it is guarenteed you will get all 5 phantasm illusions, this still makes 8 illusions + PL himself.
I would still consider him in my top 3 even with this nerf.

anyway, i am happy to agree to disagree for AM. I can agree he is certainly top 7 or so, but personally, whilst close, he is not in MY top 3.


If everyone's view on top heroes were the same, then all clan wars would have exactly the same heroes in wouldnt they? ;)
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