i would get phase boots, vlads, deso, tp, ac
game shouldbe over by that time

1. fail. vlads is useless, why do u need leech when you have a spammable ward late game that heals your whole team? waste of coinz.

2. tp? boots? or scrolls? you have phase boots already so im guessing scrolls...

and you only have 1 damage item... not that great. go bfly/assault and tell me how u like that. works better than deso/assault imo.

This post was edited by jlhromeo on Mar 5 2009 01:54pm

the tp as in scroll
also i dont use jugg so i dunno how he works, i would normally get 2-3 wraith bands 1st

k i figured thats what you meant. id skip the wraiths, unless you really have a hard time last hitting.

and i must say, the spinning TP move is excellent for escaping.

Don't say you go directly for butterfly (except for boots), please ;o

no, i get bottle/boots then head for eagle, usually getting it around lvl 10-11ish. bfly is usually finished from lvl 13-15 most games, sometimes sooner. why, whats wrong with rushing bfly? you become a murderer at mid game...

well, you see, rushing a t4 item in a highlevel game if you're not solo. makes you weak/useless majority of the time.

On top of which, if you get ganked it sets you back by a large amount .

This post was edited by BowEzed on Mar 5 2009 04:47pm

Thats correct.

But in most pubs, that wont be a problem at all.

ya from my exp, the only item that should be rushed on t4 is refresher for warlock or tide (but that is after boots and in tide's case treads)

Pretty sure Mike is > you.

Personally, I disagree with both of your points - but that's just me.

I usually get 2-3 wraiths w/ treads -> diffusal -> (Blink, sometimes, depending on the team etc.), -> bfly.

As for getting bots, the extra stats gained from Phase boots or Treads early game is what makes them better. If you're tp'ing out, I should hope you're not to cheap to be pulling around the best item in the game.

It costs 135 gold, and you only get 2 guesses.

btw, Radi is extremely outdated - and anyone that's 'initiating' with bladefury has died in that 5 second timeframe of them thinking they're invincible. I'd maybe get a radi if it was 6.10+ with an enigma... but...