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May 21 2009 12:44am
Yeah but when you say the proper build for axe in competitive play etc is not getting hunger at all and then say that hunger is ok to get if people get daggers/blink, its just contradictive.

hunger is not only good for canceling those items, but also finishing off red hp heroes that are outside the range of culling.

i remember watching a replay of a chinese team playing where the axe got hunger 11-15 and then used it at the beginning of every battle on x support hero (and on every cd throught the battles/chases afforded by an early shivas). that support hero had to back off because it took out half his life. albeit the axe was fed, beyond godlike at that point.

sometimes you need just 1 point in it to cancel said items, while you pump stats to squeeze every last bit of tankage out of him. other times you can be having a pretty rotten game and absolutely need every last stat point. and of course the not too infrequent times where axe is owning, can get an early shivas and do whatever he wants.

saying there is only 1 build is almost never right. there are too many situations in dota. the only exception im thinking of right away are the classic stormbolt/stats build for heroes like mag/skele/sven/venge. one of my favs :)
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May 21 2009 05:47pm
Quote (MidgetxMafia @ Sat, May 16 2009, 07:49am)
hunger is like the worst skill ever. it only works in -apem pubs where people don't know how to last hit. otherwise, its 100% worthless. when axes spam me with hunger I just last hit a creep and lol.


?? Battle Hunger = degen hp when someone is running or initiating
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May 21 2009 05:54pm
gear depending on enemys
1.hood if ur enemys do a lot of spell dmg/vang if they dont
2. phaseboots
3. dagger
4. shiva / hot

Skills:
Helix
Call
Call
Helix
Call
Ulti
Call
Helix
Helix
Stats
Ulti
Stats
...

U dont need to skill Battlehunger since this skill is easy to counter and since u need the life/mana of ur status points
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May 21 2009 06:01pm
Quote (ForTheMathematics @ Tue, 19 May 2009, 23:28)
You shouldn't get Hunger in laning phase unless your playing in a game with the title "DOTA APEM PROS!!!" , its too mana intensive for that part of the game. Enemy heroes will just last hit/deny. especially if they enemy hero has aoe spell that the can both harass you and last hit a creep with (krob comes first to mind).

@ midgetmafia, pascal

But not getting hunger all together is just plain nooby and reeks of pretentious "i read an axe guide written by a rand self proclaimed pro and now I know all".

and I don't play public games. if i did, it would only be to stomp wannabes like yourself.

Ravens|Angel getting 2 points of hunger before level 10, in the DTS cup 09'  final round;
http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/125250/index.html

EG.WTFg^ putting a point in hunger in ESL EMS groupstage week 2;
http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/122593/index.html

Burning of 7L gets hunger in bootcamp vs rush3d;

'http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/125722/index.html

By the way, these games are on the opposite side of the spectrum compared to public games. These are paid professionals playing DotA. Do you get paid to play DotA? Didn't think so.

So go crawl back to your TDA/Open Bnet league and try to build youself back up, because here you just got knocked down a notch. By the way, do you have an AKA in any of the aforementioned places of play? Something to possibly redeem your claims? Didn't think so.

don't worry. I am a forgiving person. If you ever want some pointers just send me a PM. Always glad to help a noob out. Maybe send me a replay, and I can critique you.


calm down they skill battlehunger because of sandking, not because of the reasons u told
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May 22 2009 07:20am
hunger is nice vs low HP heroes...
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May 28 2009 03:29am
skill order:

helix
call
call
helix
call
blade
call
helix
helix

-max stats

At first get ss, 9 tangos
you should be able to stay in woods for quite some time, and if you play serious 5on5, you got a chick. So stay in woods, until you can afford a dagger.

When dagger is ready, get boots. Then hot/phase/ac/shivas. Depends on enemy lineup.
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