uhh

you dont let him farm vanguard in the first place

I think you guys are clearly forgetting to mention vanguard is also one of the most overrated pub items ever. The only 2 heroes that have use for it is an Axe and Magina. There's really no other hero that actually needs it. You can just stick with bracers/bottle/tp scrolls/regen items for survival.

Magina doesnt really need it either...

and you forgot bristle, but there are next to no players who know how to play him right anyways

This post was edited by Pascal3000 on May 20 2009 08:23am

depends on playstyle dude

depends on wether you want to waste 2000 gold on something you can get alot cheaper and with alot more offensive potential or not dude

Well, to be honest bristle has lost most of his potential in my opinion. They have been nerfing him literally every version for the past 3059831069841906 versions ever since he was retardedly imba. I find vanguard not really required on Magina either, but general popular belief is that it's very good on him. I'm sort of neutral on the fact considering I'm not really one to play Magina. I can see it's uses on him, but at the same time feel that it's not really required.