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Mar 9 2009 11:33am
Quote (eCheque @ Sat, Mar 7 2009, 01:46pm)
So what you're telling me is... You've been goe for a year - and you think your opinion matters in the meta? ic. Treads and early wraiths give you such an early/mid game advantage it's ridiculous. If I see someone *probably you* just rushing bots and a tier 4 item - you're probably going to die. A lot.


no, i dont die
early game all u do is fury fury fury ulti
treads helps ulti a bit, i'd much rather get bracers than wraiths
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Mar 9 2009 12:05pm
Obviously you need circlets/branches, some sort of stat gain to increase your health a bit. But going whirl/stats, you're going to have a decent HP base.
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Mar 10 2009 05:49pm
i see a lot of confused individuals...i see better builds in em games.

bottle, 3 wraith bands, str treads, radiance, deso, butterfly, bkb

i would get a bfury for the benefit of a perse in early game. cleave is the most overrated mechanism in the game when the cost of bfury is about 4300 compared to a relic that is 3800. mkb, sny, vlad, and linkens are also worthy on jugg.

i would go spin, stats, spin, stats, spin, omni, spin, crit, crit, crit, omni, crit, stat, stat, stat, omni, ward, ward, ward, ward, etc etc

or max out spin, crit, and omni. stats until 16 then rest into wards.

This post was edited by _nOoB_ on Mar 10 2009 05:54pm
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Mar 10 2009 05:51pm
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i see a lot of confused individuals...i see better builds in em games.

bottle, 3 wraith bands, str treads, radiance, deso, butterfly, bkb

i would get a bfury for the benefit of a perse in early game. cleave is the most overrated mechanism in the game when the cost of bfury is about 4300 compared to a relic that is 3800. mkb, sny, vlad, and linkens are also worthy on jugg.


you do realize that there's 9 items you listed and only 6 slots.
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Mar 10 2009 05:54pm
Quote (LEEROYxJENKINS @ Tue, Mar 10 2009, 07:51pm)
you do realize that there's 9 items you listed and only 6 slots.


you realize that you can replace bottle after 20 minutes in along with wraith bands.

common sense kid
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Mar 10 2009 06:15pm
Quote (_nOoB_ @ Tue, Mar 10 2009, 06:49pm)
i see a lot of confused individuals...i see better builds in em games.

bottle, 3 wraith bands, str treads, radiance, deso, butterfly, bkb

i would get a bfury for the benefit of a perse in early game. cleave is the most overrated mechanism in the game when the cost of bfury is about 4300 compared to a relic that is 3800. mkb, sny, vlad, and linkens are also worthy on jugg.

i would go spin, stats, spin, stats, spin, omni, spin, crit, crit, crit, omni, crit, stat, stat, stat, omni, ward, ward, ward, ward, etc etc

or max out spin, crit, and omni. stats until 16 then rest into wards.


You do realize
1) Radiance in total costs more than Bfury - Bfury is far better, for juggernaut anyways, gives basically the same damage + cleave on omni + regen, and it doesn't pull creeps into his ult if it comes to that, like radiance.
2) Vlads is an overrated item in general.
3)MKB is a waste of gold majority of the time.
4)Linkens on a hero that can be magic immune, has healing ward etc.
5)Why would you ever get treads on juggernaut, if not phase then BoTs easily.

Talk about confused..
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Mar 10 2009 06:16pm
Quote (_nOoB_ @ Tue, Mar 10 2009, 07:54pm)
you realize that you can replace bottle after 20 minutes in along with wraith bands.

common sense kid


bottle is bad item choice anyways, yea, its good for healing/powerups but if your enemys are semi intelligent then they'd ward bot/top rune since it's unlikely that you'd be in middle with Jugg.
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Quote (LEEROYxJENKINS @ Tue, Mar 10 2009, 07:16pm)
bottle is bad item choice anyways, yea, its good for healing/powerups but if your enemys are semi intelligent then they'd ward bot/top rune since it's unlikely that you'd be in middle with Jugg.


? Why is it unlikely, babysit lanes go mid all the time, DeMoN also solos mid with juggernaut and does fine..
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Mar 10 2009 06:18pm
Quote (BowEzed @ Tue, Mar 10 2009, 08:17pm)
? Why is it unlikely, babysit lanes go mid all the time, DeMoN also solos mid with juggernaut and does fine..


so you can pull creeps bottom giving your babysitter and you more gold/exp
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Mar 10 2009 06:20pm
Quote (LEEROYxJENKINS @ Tue, Mar 10 2009, 07:18pm)
so you can pull creeps bottom giving your babysitter and you more gold/exp


You were talking about intelligence, when almost all good teams ward pull spots or they know they're likely to lose the lane.
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