just go to the dota forums and look at the top guides
http://forums.dota-allstars.com

This post was edited by xJudicatorx on Aug 11 2009 07:42am

dota ftw

The guides on dota-allstars, while they provide some useful information, most of the time, are not usually the greatest guides to go by. They often use sub-optimal builds and have a very publike attitude; some are just outright awful. Most of them are kind of old and few are updated appropriately.

Replays can be incredibly useful, but if you don't understand why certain builds are used at certain times, instead of others, they won't help you much.

.... Bfury?

No Dagger? LMAO

THREADS WITH NO DAGGER? DO U STUN ANYONE? LOLOL

No need dagger, assuming it is 5v5.
You just sit there and tank.
It isn't even hard to hit a stun with centaur without a blink.
Bfury for at least some DPS.

lol

cent get hod or vang as first then dagger asap and later go for hot/shivas, and boots ofc

cent:
Dagger(u have to get it fast...if u r fast u can do mass kills in early)
boots
vanguard(dont need rly)
hot
shivas

This post was edited by Pain_A1 on Aug 12 2009 01:45pm

Dota sucks

uh... no

bfury for dps??? last time I checked, bfury doesn't have +AS
Would rather get a Heart