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Apr 16 2009 07:16pm
rofl i ror'd
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Apr 17 2009 11:27am
Quote (jeremo04 @ Thu, Apr 16 2009, 10:14am)
dude you sucks,

ok so

int hero don't need strenght, u are right ^^

but they most likely need soul booster then the ult staff OR bloodstone,

or just get some null tally for hp... w/e depends on ur cash



agility heros don't need str? u are totaly wrong ... agi heros get SnY most of time or like 2 wraight band for a few str ^^ and agility adds attack speed + armor %

so with agi u dont fucking need health, you need crits and life steal to do dmg fast and regend with live steal

int hero need mana to nuke


Saying someone else sucks then saying INT heroes don't need strength? :blink: Everyone needs STR -_- its why Bracer is like the most commonly bought item in any game. INT hero without any strength will be even easier feed for your NAs etc. By ult staff you mean Agahnim? Again, very heros make good use of that for the cost. And SnY :blink: Its pretty much a bad item on almost every hero, save 2 or 3. Everyone needs hp, period. It doesn't matter how much your potential damage is if you get 2-shot all game and are level 6 by the end :P
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Apr 17 2009 12:42pm
Dude this has nothing to do with dota, this is WARCRAFT basics. It's the basics in almost all the games with heroes. Use your head, how else are you going to get hp for int? Buy hp items duh.
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Quote (iceyberries @ Fri, Apr 17 2009, 01:42pm)
Dude this has nothing to do with dota, this is WARCRAFT basics. It's the basics in almost all the games with heroes. Use your head, how else are you going to get hp for int? Buy hp items duh.


lol do you play DotA? Bracers cost 510g, 6 STR(Over 100 hp and rather negligible hp regen), 3 AGI, 3 INT. Incredibly easy build up, great stats. HP items? Vit Booster costs 1100g and only provides 250 hp. Only use is for build up, and obviously not possible for early game when extra stats are very important.
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Apr 17 2009 01:12pm
is bracer not a hp item? Wow some angry people on this forum. Like to make fun of everyone.
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Apr 17 2009 01:17pm
The angry one is obviously you -_- Nowhere in my post did I make fun of you, so stop being so defensive. HP item means HP item. Bracer is a stat boosting item, like Null or Wraith.
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Apr 18 2009 09:13am
Quote (qkrgudwlssla @ Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 02:38)
for strength characters, u get the heart of tarreque and like sange yasha etc 
and strengh chatacters when they get str, they add dmg + mass life

For intelligence characters, it adds mana when u get intelligence and dmg, 
(how you suppose to get life for intelligence characters? cause u don't need str, and u need intelligence,, but intelligence don't add health)

For agility characters,, agility doesn't add health or mana,, just dmg.,, wtf is it good for?? str adds health, dmg,  intelligence add mana , dmg,, agility only adds dmg

wat is good about aglilgty?


As already said.
For all:
Str - HP + HP Regen
Agility - Armor and Attack Speed
Int - Mana and Mana Regen

For certain heros
Str Heros - Str --> DMG
Agi Heros - Agi --> Dmg
Int Heros - Int --> Dmg

As already said too, youve got alot to learn. Most heros arent played according to their attribute. On many heros, getting damage through your main attribute is alot less important than getting other items.


Quote (LEEROYxJENKINS @ Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 04:51)
most of the items that you get for a hero are situational/dependent on the other teams heroes.

yes, there are pub* builds that will win you the game some times but if the other team isn't retarded, they never work.


True, well some builds are viable in almost all games, but those are other builds than he was talking about (example would be DP Phase --> Bloodstone --> Hot --> (Hood) --> Guinsoo / Shiva / Skadi)

Quote (UndeadGad @ Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 05:10)
sange and yasha = crapy noob pub item
only good on 1 hero 2 letters
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Almost. Sange and Yasha is a very overrated item in pubs and rarely worth it, but some heros can play it too. Potm with SNY is viable, but with the current strenght of diffusal and the strenght of the mass farm maelstrom + skadi, its rarely seen.

Quote (Mythix @ Wed, 15 Apr 2009, 07:31)
well Lion you should get Dagon.

I also like bloodstone with Lion.

That will give you a good amount of life with bloodstone and a second Ult with Dagon.

Refresher orb is also good late game with him, but it depends on your opponents.


No, you definitly shouldnt get dagon on lion. Also you shouldnt get refresher orb.

Bottle --> Phaseboots + 2-3 Bracers --> Dagger --> Bloodstone

Quote (jeremo04 @ Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 17:14)
dude you sucks,

ok so

int hero don't need strenght, u are right ^^

but they most likely need soul booster then the ult staff OR bloodstone,

or just get some null tally for hp... w/e depends on ur cash



agility heros don't need str? u are totaly wrong ... agi heros get SnY most of time or like 2 wraight band for a few str ^^ and agility adds attack speed + armor %

so with agi u dont fucking need health, you need crits and life steal to do dmg fast and regend with live steal

int hero need mana to nuke


Man, youre epic fail man.

First you call him noob (might be true, but whatever) and then you post LOADS of moronic noob bullshit.

SNY on most agi heros? Its the most overrated pub item there is.

Intelligence heros dont need str? Most ints are played a supporters / nukers and often rush 2-3 bracers, except the FEW ones that can farm massively and rush bloodstone (DP, Necro etc.).

Rushing crits on agility? Definitly not. You need about 140 base damage for Buriza to pay off, otherwise other dmg items are way more effective, namely black king bar.

No str / hp on agility? I guess you have never play against a competent clan / team which was able to properly chainstun and 1 shot you before you even did a single hit with an agility hero. You will DEFINITLY need some kind of hp, and in most cases even Black King Bar to be able to do ANYTHING against a proper team.


PS: Any of you new guys want to learn dota, whisper me for lessons

This post was edited by Pascal3000 on Apr 18 2009 09:24am
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Quote (jeremo04 @ Thu, Apr 16 2009, 07:14am)
dude you sucks,

ok so

int hero don't need strenght, u are right ^^

but they most likely need soul booster then the ult staff OR bloodstone,

or just get some null tally for hp... w/e depends on ur cash



agility heros don't need str? u are totaly wrong ... agi heros get SnY most of time or like 2 wraight band for a few str ^^ and agility adds attack speed + armor %

so with agi u dont fucking need health, you need crits and life steal to do dmg fast and regend with live steal

int hero need mana to nuke



Lion > all other agi and int heroes up to level 16.

This post was edited by Scimish on May 15 2009 11:44pm
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May 16 2009 12:42am
TY for that Pascal, i was beginning to despair about the dota players on this forum

I vouch everything he said
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May 20 2009 05:00am
yea your looking at it wrong

base attributes are just a small bonus and you shouldnt be too concerned

you have to learn the strengths of each hero individually
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