Thanks.

dh naga 2mgs 3bears rest dyrads

no problem. most of the strats discussed here are shown there, and its a lot easier to watch how/what people do than try to do it by something like "dh naga 2mgs 3bears rest dyrads"

yeah lol

I've been doing one of the NE strats I watched, and it's working out pretty well. So far, i've won 3 games in a row, lost none, and 2 of the people I beat bitched at me saying some crap like "I hate when noobs get lucky and win" or whatever lol.

I've been doing DH, harass, build archers back at base, continue to harass untill i'm ready to attack with archers, mean while i'm upgrading my tree to tire 2, continue to harass and attack, slowing their progress down a bit while they are either out trying to creep, or while they are still in their base. Get 3-4 hunts, get hippographs, put my archers on the hippographs, get a few more hunts and get drayds along with naga once i get t2 tree. After one of the harass attacks, heal at base, go clear a mine, then go harass again and start building another tree for faster gold income. I also grab a few galives somewhere inbetween all that chaos to do lots of damage to buildings quickly, and take out towers if they get any.
I never have to get any T3 troops, just T1 and T2.

So far i've played NE vs NE, NE vs Human, and NE vs Orc. The other NE tryed to hunt rush me yet I still won by drawing him into my base where he got his hero stuck so I killed it quickly, along with his hunts. The Human guy tryed to tower rush me, but he wasn't to smart about it. He attacked my base from one side while he built towers on the other where I couldn't see, he lost the fight and I attacked his base where I realized he was sending a couple of builders out of his base and towards mine, so after I killed his AM I teleported back, killed the only 3 towers he had built, then went back and finished him off. The Orc player went with BM like most, but it failed cuz I get my shop early so I had dust to find and kill him. He was getting lots of grunts and little spear guys, then he was getting wolf riders or whatever they are called, he also got the healing hero dude, his BM died like 4 times thoughtout the game and never got past level 1, and his other hero only died once. He cought me creeping my mine once and I lost most of my troops cuz there was no way out, and he killed my DH, but rest of troops lived and got back into base and healed fast enough to catch him still at the mine where I killed hi BM and several of his troops with my naga and drayds, then I healed at base and lured several of his troops in where they died, along with his healing hero.
Point is, so far, this strat has worked out great for me.

So far, it has yet to fail me. lol
The constant harassment and using wells back at base to heal quickly keeps them on their toes as well as slows them down enough for me to win.

ne vs undead will be a true test, its not one of my fav lineups. but then again i havnt played ladder in oh, probably 4 years? strictly dota lately, and some runes of magic (free WoW clone that just got released, was in beta forever)

good luck!

I just lost two in a row, both to NE's. First one beat me with a hunt rush. I'm not sure why, but it was probly because I changed my stratigie since my archers couldn't take to many hits from the hunts. Then the next game was me agenst another NE, whom did my normal start with archers and a couple of hunts to hipograph riders and drayds, but I did the hunt rush to see if it'd work, and it didn't, he ended up beating me with mass hunts/archers/drayds and he got lucky a couple of times catching me off guard.. If he wouldn't have killed my tree while I was attacking his base before I could get back, then I might have won lol.

Then I won another game after those two losses putting me at 2-2 with NE's. This game was agenst an UD player whom got his ass handed to him. He couldn't keep up with my archers who were tearing his ghouls apart along with my naga and DH. Then by the time he got even 2 spiders I had like 3-4 hunts with 8 archers. Before he could get anything to stop my wrath I allready had T2, getting drayds, and had hippograph riders, only advantage he had was a mine he got early in the game which screwed him royaly lol.

yeah if undead is smart they will ghoul rush you, and once they get fiends/destros it can get tough... but you did good, jump them early and dont let them expo/tech.