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Mar 3 2009 09:42am
Quote (Skraelos @ Tue, Mar 3 2009, 10:19am)
You're the most adequate person here. When someone is saying "battlefury" they sound like they say "I'm playing only pubs and I have no understanding of the importance of my money."


I fail to see how he's the most adequate... he listed both boots and travels as though they're two different things...
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Mar 3 2009 09:58am
i dont get why people get B.Fury on jugg. It adds no IAS, measly damage, and oh wow cleave/regen...

IAS = More hits in omni = more dead heroes.

i usually get him Bfly ASAP, it can be rushed if you know how to farm/gank/neutral effectively. bottle is ok on him at the beginning, it lets him runewhore and gank better. and early boots are a must, i have 1st blooded a lot because i simply had boots and the enemy did not.
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Mar 3 2009 10:08am
Quote (jlhromeo @ Tue, Mar 3 2009, 11:58am)
i dont get why people get B.Fury on jugg.  It adds no IAS, measly damage, and oh wow cleave/regen...

IAS = More hits in omni = more dead heroes.

i usually get him Bfly ASAP, it can be rushed if you know how to farm/gank/neutral effectively.  bottle is ok on him at the beginning, it lets him runewhore and gank better.  and early boots are a must, i have 1st blooded a lot because i simply had boots and the enemy did not.


huh? IAS gives more omni hits? how is that possible?

I get bfury because cool animation + infinite mana if u get some stats early
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Mar 3 2009 10:25am
Quote (WoneD @ Tue, Mar 3 2009, 11:08am)
huh? IAS gives more omni hits? how is that possible?

I get bfury because cool animation + infinite mana if u get some stats early


because he does a normal attack in between omni slashes if his attack speed is high enough. i thought almost everyone knew this? blink.gif

IAS is key on jugger. so is dmg. he has a natural crit, a natural escape/spell block, and a 1 hit wonder for an ultimate. all he needs is IAS/DMG and then some HP to tank up with later on when the big dps'ers come out and play. bfury is nice but IMO its a waste, id rather have MKB or Deso or something that gives me killing power since jugg isnt a pusher, he shouldnt get bfury, leave that to the team tank. if you really really need the regen, turn the pers. into Likens to avoid that stun/disable, but usually he is fine with the standard carry items (minus buriza ofc.) jugg should be played as a carry.

This post was edited by jlhromeo on Mar 3 2009 10:29am
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Mar 3 2009 10:48am
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because he does a normal attack in between omni slashes if his attack speed is high enough.  i thought almost everyone knew this?  blink.gif

IAS is key on jugger.  so is dmg.  he has a natural crit, a natural escape/spell block, and a 1 hit wonder for an ultimate.  all he needs is IAS/DMG and then some HP to tank up with later on when the big dps'ers come out and play.  bfury is nice but IMO its a waste, id rather have MKB or Deso or something that gives me killing power since jugg isnt a pusher, he shouldnt get bfury, leave that to the team tank.  if you really really need the regen, turn the pers. into Likens to avoid that stun/disable, but usually he is fine with the standard carry items (minus buriza ofc.)  jugg should be played as a carry.


Ill definately try to max out his IAS next time!
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Mar 3 2009 10:51am
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I get bfury because cool animation


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Mar 3 2009 10:53am
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Mar 3 2009 02:00pm
kool i learn something new today I never knew ias increases slashes thx man
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Mar 3 2009 02:02pm
isint his ult based on # of hits?

if so, why would ias matter when you ult, you'd still do XXX dmg, except faster.

Edit:j.w, is there any proof to back up the IAS/more hits statement?

This post was edited by LEEROYxJENKINS on Mar 3 2009 02:03pm
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isint his ult based on # of hits?

if so, why would ias matter when you ult, you'd still do XXX dmg, except faster.

Edit:j.w,  is there any proof to back up the IAS/more hits statement?


This is an official fact posted in the dotaallstars forums in the mechanics section. At a certain point, a higher ias does in fact increase the number of hits during his ult. For this reason, bfury is a shitty item to get first on jugg. Treads + Assault + Deso + Bracers. Yes, the deso triggers during his ult.

This post was edited by Weeeooo on Mar 3 2009 03:28pm
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