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Sep 27 2011 03:46pm
which race is most like the protoss in sc2 and why?
what are some basic yet solid BO's for said race

This post was edited by mosca_mercer on Sep 27 2011 03:46pm
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Sep 27 2011 04:08pm
watch replays for bo's
& i dont know which race could be protoss
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Sep 27 2011 06:01pm
Would say human, due to the similarity in play-style. Blocking, using base as defence mechanism.

But comparing SC2 with WC3 is rather stupid to be honest -_-

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Sep 27 2011 08:39pm
ive already started playing as ud, cuz i figured theyd be best for deathball style.
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Sep 28 2011 12:21am
human easiest to play mass expo mass towers gogo suck more
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Sep 28 2011 04:36pm
wrong site? seriously just google warcraft forums and ask there. in fact they've probably answerred it for someone else. You'll probably get me reply there lol.

WC3 is all about what level you play at anyway and what you like to play.


For example, i specialise in tower rushing and oddball strats.

Standard orc tower rush. (Not recommended versus undead, fairly poor versus human, great versus orc/elf)

4x peons to gold, 1x peon to altar, build peon (i do it in this order)
when peon is ~70% complete, select a peon and make a burrow (this is the timing so that altar and burrow finish same time)
First peon out to gold,
next peon out to make barracks
next out to wood
at 40 wood build burrow
at 30 wood build vodoo lounge
hero: Far seer
Go creep, if versus elf i would harass. The aim against elf will be to use their moon wells mana up.

In fact, watch a replay for the rest. i suppose i could get off my ass and produce a few if interested.



I also beat noobs in amusing ways, as shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrvb2DjV1Yg&list=PL595B4752EA471E8C&index=1 (audio commentated by downwhere, i'm Bigheaded[ones])
This build is only useful for beating absolute noobs. to play against absolute noobs, have an account with 0 wins 0 losses, play 10 games and LEAVE them all. now go play, you will usually be against a player with the brains the size of half a peanut.
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Sep 29 2011 03:17am
Quote (mclarke @ Sep 28 2011 11:36pm)
wrong site? seriously just google warcraft forums and ask there. in fact they've probably answerred it for someone else. You'll probably get me reply there lol.

WC3 is all about what level you play at anyway and what you like to play.


For example, i specialise in tower rushing and oddball strats.
Standard orc tower rush. (Not recommended versus undead, fairly poor versus human, great versus orc/elf)
4x peons to gold, 1x peon to altar, build peon (i do it in this order)
when peon is ~70% complete, select a peon and make a burrow (this is the timing so that altar and burrow finish same time)
First peon out to gold,
next peon out to make barracks
next out to wood
at 40 wood build burrow
at 30 wood build vodoo lounge
hero: Far seer
Go creep, if versus elf i would harass. The aim against elf will be to use their moon wells mana up.

In fact, watch a replay for the rest. i suppose i could get off my ass and produce a few if interested.



I also beat noobs in amusing ways, as shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrvb2DjV1Yg&list=PL595B4752EA471E8C&index=1 (audio commentated by downwhere, i'm Bigheaded[ones])
This build is only useful for beating absolute noobs. to play against absolute noobs, have an account with 0 wins 0 losses, play 10 games and LEAVE them all. now go play, you will usually be against a player with the brains the size of half a peanut.




hahaha lame style but it works :D
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Sep 29 2011 08:56am
Quote (mclarke @ Sep 28 2011 11:36pm)
wrong site? seriously just google warcraft forums and ask there. in fact they've probably answerred it for someone else. You'll probably get me reply there lol.

WC3 is all about what level you play at anyway and what you like to play.


For example, i specialise in tower rushing and oddball strats.
Standard orc tower rush. (Not recommended versus undead, fairly poor versus human, great versus orc/elf)
4x peons to gold, 1x peon to altar, build peon (i do it in this order)
when peon is ~70% complete, select a peon and make a burrow (this is the timing so that altar and burrow finish same time)
First peon out to gold,
next peon out to make barracks
next out to wood
at 40 wood build burrow
at 30 wood build vodoo lounge
hero: Far seer
Go creep, if versus elf i would harass. The aim against elf will be to use their moon wells mana up.

In fact, watch a replay for the rest. i suppose i could get off my ass and produce a few if interested.



I also beat noobs in amusing ways, as shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrvb2DjV1Yg&list=PL595B4752EA471E8C&index=1 (audio commentated by downwhere, i'm Bigheaded[ones])
This build is only useful for beating absolute noobs. to play against absolute noobs, have an account with 0 wins 0 losses, play 10 games and LEAVE them all. now go play, you will usually be against a player with the brains the size of half a peanut.



so you really want to play FS in 1x1 vs a elf. you must be good.
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Sep 29 2011 02:07pm
I'd say UD is protoss cause the units cost so much and it's dire that you don't lose any units
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Sep 29 2011 02:13pm
Quote (Marquina @ Sep 29 2011 02:56pm)
so you really want to play FS in 1x1 vs a elf. you must be good.



wrong. At lower levels of play, the elf is going to be bad, rushing him when his best units are likely to be archers is most likely going to own them.
When they go hunts, they would have built an excedingly expensive hunters hall (210 gold), may often have 2 AOW's (another -160 gold which isnt doing a lot), possibly a tech (possibly -310 gold 180 wood). You on the other hand will have sold your TP (+175), 2 heroes which have summoned units/wards, built a warmill + tech, have pumped ALL gold into units and ready to rumble. Usually i will fight at 40 food versus their 28-35, add in summons, add in the towers which they also need to focus down, add in the fact i harassed at t1 so they have no moon juice... GG.


The great thing about doing a gruntapult (where you use grunts and demo's which are called catapults in ROC hence the name) is that it times it when you are at ~40 food and ready to go, while the elf is spending gold on buildings such as tech/hunter hall/new unit buildings (AoWinds/AOL).
Also, Elves are insanely weak when rushed at t1/t2, the only tanky units they have are heroes (mainly DH/Warden rest are pretty weak) huntresses (which die ULTRA fast to towers + serpent wards/lava spawn depending on 2nd hero, tinker works also). This is it. T2 DOTC's are too expensive to do any amount of damage and need the tech before they can heal the DH. A player going DOTC's versus a gruntapult is going to lose quickly.


Well seeing he's chosen undead (lol, probably the weakest race if you ever get good) this may be useless ;)
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