Has anyone tried to play panda as first hero??

He has the gg ult that is basically 3 heroes for a temp period.

Although I guess it would be hard to get lvl 6 in a 1v1

But his flame breath = TC shock wave and he has a passive for evasion O.o like DH

Iso: Opinions

[DISREGARD THE FACT THAT BM HAS WINDWALK & AUTO KILLING CRIT]

i still go far seer in 1v1

unles its a close orc based map then i go bm

panda would get wrecked.

good 2nd choice in some cases

panda has evasion but if ur not gettign drunken haze and goin flame.. thats pretty noob yo.. if u haze and then flame they take extra burn damage until the haze is gone...

and for orc go Blademaster everygame.. it is what makes orc orc

This post was edited by Thizzle_Dancee on Jun 22 2009 04:56pm

Well I was just trying to point out the strengths of those 2 skills
Drunken haze + flame = mana burned up
it's usually stronger just to flame flame flame rather than have 1 strong flame (also passives ftw)

True, in some cases that's right.
But vs ud, where you use panda the most cuz of him aoe vs ghouls and gargs, drunken haze is crucial. The combination of aoe damage, aoe damage denial and not to forget the extra damage of the combo (afterfirethingy)

mmm
sounds interesting...
I wanna try out panda, but I know it'll give me loses haha
maybe I'll make a random account and try it out

i suggest if u play orc to go blademaster first almost everygame.. he is the best hero in the game

Panda is a horrible hero to firstpick because he is
a.) Creep dependant (needs lvl 3 to start working
b.) Has no map control
c.) Gets countered fairly easily (Breakers, Healing Scrolls)

The only race that can pull off panda first is nightelf. Moonwells and AoW creeping make up for the early lack of mana and the harrasability and also speed up your creeping to secure a fast level 3.

One of the main advantages Orc has is the extreme mapcontrol that blademaster grants, with huge movespeed, creepjack potential, hero focus potential and damage output. Both Panda and Farseer are a waste of Orcs potential and weak firstpicks. The orcish army focuses around supporting a stacked blademaster in every way possible in the current metagame. You keep pressure on your opponent with windwalk and creepjacks, get raiders and shadowhunter hex as disables to be able to focus fire, grunts to tank and spiritwalkers for dispell and link. None of these units have good damage output, but that problem is fixed by a blademaster stacked with circlets and claws, which does insane damage...

If panda first works, it shows that your opponent was an idiot and you have a low ELL

haha
I don't have a lowwww ELL, but I really wanted to try and utilize panda for wins
It'd be fun at least

This post was edited by jua on Jun 23 2009 08:25am