Yo all

I want to test Geomancer, Mortred and naix
but well ... dont know what to give them ~~
maybe some1 can tell me plz? Lets say ive up to 20 k gold while playing
also i wanted to know - naix ulti what does this do? Since my schoolenglish is over 4 years old i cant understand the text ~~


thx for help guys

no1 can help me so?? :S

basically you jump into a creep from melee range, then you are inside it, you can kill it whenever you want and you get healed depending on that creeps hp.

1. Dont play -apem, you wont have 20k in a serious match

2. Naix:
Power Treads Armlet Desolator (normally game ends here) Buriza Assault Cuirrass -> HoT

Mortred (aka noob easy mode hero)
Normal Boots Preserverance 2-3 Wraiths Power Treads Bfury Vladmirs 2nd Bfury / MKB / BKB / Desolator / Satanic

Geomancer:
1. Mekasm Power TreadsVladmirsDesolatorAssault Cuirass

2. Power TreadsLotharsany DMG

Deso on geo is a luxury item, i'd get AC before it. Never even bothered with lothars build, just get poof and net, gg.

Naix is dead on, very generic but effective build, the luxury items don't matter because a decently leveled naix with treads and armlet can already farm well and deso is gg, maybe throw in some bracers.

Mortred i'd skip the wraiths and get maybe a bracer or two then treads, and mask of madness is better than vlads imo. That and bfly > 2nd bfury. Bkb is circumstantial and can be used on almost any hero.

Well, im personally a big fan of lothars build (1 walks in and nets, 3 come poofed in, 1 hero dead 100% sure), its just great for midgame ganking. People rarely play geo aggresively. It used to be way better before the poof nerf ofc, nowadays geo really isnt that strong anymore, but you can still pull him off when you manage to freefarm.

Thought bracers on naix inbetween were self explanatory

Bfly is a waste imo, especially cause evasion doesnt stack, if you want pure dmg, get mkb instead. Mom will rarely work unless combined with BKB because it will have you nuked to death in rage, if you want orb-effect lifesteal get HoD -> Satanic imo. I just like Vladmirs better because it allows you to go Desolator which is the best pure DPS orb effect there is.

blink is mb 150x better than lothar on meepo, and if you get lothar for the love of god get travels.

I wouldn´t go for the lothar poof build, since the poofdmg is nerfed bigtime now.

naix ulti is working like this: you press the ulti and jump in a creep, then you can stay there until the unit is killed or you can instakill it and get a percent of its health at that time. You eat it up instant with the same hotkey as the ulti.

tried naix ulti @ single player ... also test him in apem game ... cant handle this char (dunno why :S)
anyway thx for help

also tried mortred and hmm i like her ... is rly nice killer @ apem games and her ulti is nice 2 so

geo im not sure - checkd stats etc @ singe player and imo he get rly low life ~~ 1.6 k @ lvl 25 isnt that much


what about vengeful spirit? i saw my brother plaid her very well didnt saw items ... is this char that good or other ppl are noobs? ^^ items?? thx for help
+thx for answers so far

This post was edited by Lollsen on Apr 19 2009 03:20pm

1. STOP PLAYING APEM or youll never get good.

2. Stop playing apem and youll see how mortred is not good (it can be a carry with good support, but not for a weak player and not easily).

3. The whole point of geo is outfarming your opponents, multitasking with farming on multiple lanes + forest, poofing around for mapcontrol (basically furion ^ 2). And i already said in my post that he is pretty sucky for COMPETITIVE play, now that he has been nerfed.

4. Dagger vs Lothars

Both work, but lothars gives your soloing initiator meepo a true escape mechanism, which is helpfull AND you can cast the poof while the meepo is still in WW, while a daggering meepo would be visible, unless you time it poof dagger poof arrival

5. Venge is mediocre for pubstomping, but can work with a build like treads -> lothars -> deso -> buriza, but its normally played as roaming support on higher level with normal boots and wards mostly