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Jan 27 2014 05:21pm
1. Give colossi a hefty turning time. That's right, to back up, they need to turn around.
2. Bring back the arbiter, with stasis field. Give it something new in place of recall (MSC already has that). Maybe d-web or an area cloak that costs energy. No free cloak.
3. Bring back Khaydarin Amulet. Decrease storm damage to 2/3.
4. Feedback deals 1 point of damage for every 2 points of energy removed.
5. Root archons when morphing. Make them ignore unit collision when morphing.
6. Increase the time it takes for the oracle to start attacking another target. This keeps it good at killing SCVs but gives Terran players a chance to defend against it with early marines.
7. Give interceptors higher targeting priority than carriers. Units will always default to shooting an interceptor over a carrier if they are not commanded to do otherwise.
8. Interceptors can shoot two units before their attack is on cooldown (but not the same unit twice). They cannot shoot a building and a unit, or two buildings.
9. Carriers have +1 shield armor.
10. Nexus cannon duration halved.

I think these changes will weaken the a-move late game of Protoss (colossus nerf is bigger than you think) and give Protoss players a few more opportunities to showcase some micro skills (with the arbiter and some extra spells). Also, carriers are capital ships and should be treated as such. Buff carrier thx.

This post was edited by BardOfXiix on Jan 27 2014 05:22pm
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Jan 27 2014 10:52pm
Yes, but never bring back Khaydarin Amulet pls.
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Jan 27 2014 10:59pm
Quote (NoLimit028 @ Jan 28 2014 03:52pm)
Yes, but never bring back Khaydarin Amulet pls.


decrease storm damage is a good tradeoff for it though. marauders will heal through 2/3 storm damage.
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Jan 28 2014 01:45pm
I hate Protoss.
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Jan 28 2014 08:33pm
So no actual opinions on what this would do? :s
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Jan 28 2014 08:46pm
change ff / blink would make most people happy.
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Jan 28 2014 08:51pm
I like the idea of another spellcaster than ht...something like the arbiter would be cool.

Coloss change would be incredibly annoying and they would path like retards...doesnt really add any kind of micro depth imo.

Oracle has needed a nerf since it came out - it's just stupid, so any kind of change would be nice.

I dont like the storm idea so much...but i guess i could live with that since amulet was really nice.

Carriers suck ass and need a serious rework...same with BCs.

Nexus cannon duration is def gonna take a hit - but it wouldnt affect most players too much imo.

I think feedback should cost less mana if you're going to reduce the dmg by 50%.



I dont think these would dramatically change anything...i think some elements of the race need to be totally reworked in order to stop the toss hate :unsure:

This post was edited by Perf3ction on Jan 28 2014 09:01pm
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Quote (Perf3ction @ Jan 28 2014 07:51pm)
I like the idea of another spellcaster than ht...something like the arbiter would be cool.

Coloss change would be incredibly annoying and they would path like retards...doesnt really add any kind of micro depth imo.

Oracle has needed a nerf since it came out - it's just stupid, so any kind of change would be nice.

I dont like the storm idea so much...but i guess i could live with that since amulet was really nice.

Carriers suck ass and need a serious rework...same with BCs.

Nexus cannon duration is def gonna take a hit - but it wouldnt affect most players too much imo.

I think feedback should cost less mana if you're going to reduce the dmg by 50%.



I dont think these would dramatically change anything...i think some elements of the race need to be totally reworked in order to stop the toss hate :unsure:


I feel like the colossus nerf would make them unwieldy enough to require more thought in motion from Protoss and allow other races to more easily pick them off, essentially nerfing them without destroying them. Or maybe it would be too crippling...all the kiting between armies, when Protoss goes in and backs out and stuff? You're going to be losing those big guys the whole time

Nexus cannon would be big. ATM the duration really fucks over timing attacks because it not only provides a defender for the whole push duration but it also buys you time to get at least 1 more warpin. It should be something you have to save for the actual engage, not "oh look an army lemme cast this now and it'll be there for a minute and a half".

I don't think these would drastically change much, but I think it would be enough to weaken Protoss without absolutely crippling them.

I think that a total rework of the race would be the best option--should we attempt to look at the elements that we feel are the problem? What do you think the fundamental changes that need to be made are?
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Quote (BardOfXiix @ Jan 29 2014 05:38pm)
I feel like the colossus nerf would make them unwieldy enough to require more thought in motion from Protoss and allow other races to more easily pick them off, essentially nerfing them without destroying them.  Or maybe it would be too crippling...all the kiting between armies, when Protoss goes in and backs out and stuff?  You're going to be losing those big guys the whole time

Nexus cannon would be big.  ATM the duration really fucks over timing attacks because it not only provides a defender for the whole push duration but it also buys you time to get at least 1 more warpin.  It should be something you have to save for the actual engage, not "oh look an army lemme cast this now and it'll be there for a minute and a half".

I don't think these would drastically change much, but I think it would be enough to weaken Protoss without absolutely crippling them.

I think that a total rework of the race would be the best option--should we attempt to look at the elements that we feel are the problem?  What do you think the fundamental changes that need to be made are?


A complete rework would be crippling. removal or change in racial mechanics this far in the game is too much of a change IMO.
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Jan 29 2014 04:26am
remove warpgate entirely

or have them warp in at a certain radius near the gateway in which the unit is built from.

This post was edited by Burzum on Jan 29 2014 04:28am
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