Sick of losing, can't pressure etc msc stop all, expand lose all, I play greedy die to blinks stalkers etc

I take a third and they 2 base all in me
I dont take a third and they just turtle


I need a hellbats/mech/thor/banshee/unupgraded marines build 2 base all in or w-e...tested once so far and got a win but the guy didnt really have void rays or shit like that

gonna 2 base all in til they nerf mothership core

pull scvs



i would say try to lure him with a small force to the nat, quickly drop in main with multiple dropships and try to snipe nexus/tech then go macro... (u will have significantly more bio/dropship cuz no third)

i dont see many 2b all in that works vs ff...

also try to bait the overcharge on the nat by looking like ur gonna fight, then just back out and hope he isnt max energy lol. once that overcharge is gone...

This post was edited by Perf3ction on Jul 19 2013 11:30am

If u dont open widow mine the mothership always has max energy...cuz there's just nothing to pressure with

offensive mine is risky if it does no damage...u are just kinda weak if so. id only get 1-2 mines to put in my minerals to ez an oracle and collect free 150/150 kill.

when i was playing T i just opened gasless most games or reaper to scout then decide from there. imo best option is to just bait it then run...or look like you are gonna atk main then quickly move out of sight and load up and doom drop -> snipe nexus or tech then take your third and just outmicro with viking or ghost depending on toss tech choice...

other than that, i feel like a head on atk should never work until 3 bases unless toss makes huge mistake. you need to abuse drops more than anything in this matchup, and at the right times

I already do multiple drop attacks...like at 10 mins once I get first 2 medi, I attack front and if I seem to havemuch less I back off...then the next 2 medi at home I load them and just shift click to the main while keeping my other 2 full medi at the front to possibly snipe the nexus

I often try to snipe main nexus, theres nothing to defend then like when its 25% done his army kills my army b4 I kill the nexus or photon overcharge kills my medievacs when i try to run away...

Or they will just have stalkers in the main and shit

its a lose/lose cuz I kinda trade units against his economy but terran is already cost innefective vs protoss...so I give him army lead while having the worst units

This post was edited by Nevada on Jul 19 2013 11:40am

i would honesty just go 3base every game if i were you...dont expect to win when the toss only has to defend 2 things. dont be super greedy about the third, just make sure you take it before him, and keep him scared to leave his base. scan his tech and make viking/ghost and just win the battle when/if he pushes out.

if he takes his third, he will be too afraid to move around outside his territory (you will 100% have the bigger army if he takes the third when you do), then you can really start abusing drops all over the place. whenever i take a third at a pretty early time, i have this window in which i am terrified of the terran attacking.



from my experience fighting terrans, i only get owned by the ones that have excellent ghost control. sniping hts and emping well is really the core of this matchup - throwing away ghosts just for a blanket EMP is not what you need to do. need sick ghost micro and u can slowly pick him apart using your range advantage (killing overextended zealots) in the middle and constantly retreating/poking/sniping/emping..

idk if you've practiced build timings, but i found that to be crucial as terran because if your macro isn't spot on - you'll just get raped lol

and as for getting rushed...just need to see expo timing, which will tell you everything. 2 gas can be super deceiving, as i sometimes fake it and pull off the second gas and power out probes for the nat and the terran gets all scared and i end up having a great eco.

Just floating this out there, has anyone tried a 2 base ghost all-in?

coloss >

all in cuz bad

You lose to reapers tvt...I hold them all day even with a gas first lol

I lose to bullshit =]