Trying to fix holes in tvp cc first

These are the ones i encounter the most, not sure if any others are really common

Blink allin (King cunt)
Proxy oracles
Immortal bust
4 Gate
Asap Dt's (usually never an all in besides archon bullcrap)

any tosses that want to test any of the above build orders against cc first, lmk

if you are willing to flip the coin by cc first, you are willing to risk auto losing when your coin lands on tails.

i hold the belief you can defend anything with a smart cc first if you're good.

If you can hold everything while playing literally as greedy as you can = imbalance.

Don't CC first on non-large maps...there's only 1-2 map in the pool you should CC first on assuming u got none veto'd

Reaper tvp is the best. else you're just playing blindly

This post was edited by Nevada on Jul 5 2013 02:07am

gonna put my tommyv hat on for a second

if you go 14/15 rax, (like TY in proleague) the closest proxy oracles bounce right off of you,

and going 2 tech lab rauder directly after you have 7-9 marines out lets you get 2 marauders far before the earliest blink in (7 minutes)

save scans at 7 minutes for dts?

immortal bust i have no fkin clue how to even come close to defending

probly right but im sure you can do just fine through masters with cc first in all maps

bunkers

Yeah you can do it on all maps but you have a hell alot more chances of getting proxy 2 gates / super early zealot+stalker+msc pressure / proxy oracle / etc on smaller maps and dying than if u cc first on whirldwind where chance of getting zealot msc stlaker pressured are very low (a super early one)

The reaper in tvp actually let you 10000% scout everything from tech to expo's to proxy. and its needed alot in HOTS just because of the Oracles and all ins.
Therefore you can just react and defend.

Obviously your income is not as good as a cc first and reapers opening and some flaws just like any other build...it sucks vs aggressive builds because it delays alot your barack #2 and #3, thats why u need to take workers off gas after reactor after the reaper.

Reaper > scout proxies, scouts expo, scouts tech all for free without dying.

While a cc first you're gonna play blindly a fast e-bay and make 2 turrets for nothing bcuz you suspect oracles because u have no reaper to scout exactly what hes doing and then youre kinda behind
Or you expect blink stalkers because you have no reaper to 100% scout and he makes dt's and u die

Same thing with 4 gate...you scout with scv you see oh he has 2 gas hes not 4 gating...but then u die to a sentry msc zealot stalker 4 gate bcuz u had no reaper to scout if he expo'd

Reaper is just overall better. (with the fast e-bay for +1 and turrets in case of oracles)

This post was edited by Nevada on Jul 5 2013 02:18am

cc first in tvp?
LOL.
Stop joking. Even opening gasless is suicide