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Jun 4 2013 12:05pm
Heya guys!

I have posted before asking how to beat terran as zerg but since then I have changed the way I play and don't lose to them %100! :D YAY but lately I've felt that I am no improving as I keep losing to the same thing and I'm not quite sure what I am doing wrong I managed to get to Gold and now I find that I'm stuck in this rut of not improving my play I can attach replays at request but some basic advice about macro/micro or mechanics anything that can help me in anyway. Some easy basic Build Orders would be nice too :D Thanks guys!
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Jun 4 2013 12:23pm
Make drones, get fast upgrades, tech to roaches hydras and collect free wins

e/ or get ultras

This post was edited by Nevada on Jun 4 2013 12:23pm
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Jun 4 2013 12:51pm
Quote (Nevada @ Jun 4 2013 06:23pm)
Make drones, get fast upgrades, tech to roaches hydras and collect free wins

e/ or get ultras


I've tried this but against certain turtle builds i find it hard to break threw also what happens VS MMM and well placed FF's?

e/ also do you have any opener BO for that please? ;)

This post was edited by Bubbacyborg on Jun 4 2013 01:14pm
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Jun 4 2013 01:16pm
Terrans:
build walls to hide behind
build tanks to hide behind
sent tier 1-2 crap ascorted/carried bye expensive madivac to slay drones
sometimes even build mass aounth of fast army-kiting-viracles, to slay drones
even sent some stealth choppers to kill drones
ofc they also have decent units, but you not see them in action alot vs defensive-army.

how i play vs terran:
i build hatchery at my 4e or at terrans 4e, must be out of range from natural-main-tanks, at 15-16drones, 1e overlord is sent there for vision, if get spotted
after that i build pool+2gas
Lair at main
now i put away 2 drones from gas, only 4 are on gas no
Queen at Proxy
1-2*Spine vs reaper or for later at main and at proxy
if i fear hellion, i may make wall, overall its better to keep spine near miniral line, to protect against drops
Lair finish now, buils infestation pit
queen finish now, at 6min, built tumor and sent togethor whit creep-overlord to enemy, to get a verry fast, long ranged creep-hi-way from proxy to terran ramp, whitin 1 min
since your proxy must be father away from terrans then from zerg+protoss, you can sent queen as soon as it finish, you have plenty of time to make swarmhosts
meanwhile you can put thouse 2drones back on gas, for 6gas drones, since you realy want to start locust duration upgrade, even before the first swarmhost spawns
its hard to tell, when and howmany swarmhost you wana keep at main, thats why i only buid them after i attacked
as soon as 3swarmhost+upgrade is finished, attack ramp,
if tank, build more swarmhosts, and snipe tank, get overlord for vision
if hellion, you may wall a little,
if hellion or bio, you may build 1-2swarmhost at main
vs protoss, i sometimes turn my proxy hatchery into a proxy-lair: he not scout my lair / he not kill lair in a base trade / my queen is delayed, not done it yet vs terran, mostly he comes for drone-snipe, instead of base trade, witch allow lower-defences
however, terran have nice tanks/air, etc etc vs swarmhosts, you want that attack urly+concentraded!

ofc get 1-2spore up soon, more if needed,
if bio: watch the show, and relax a little, 2swarmhost at main, will rip him appart, ofc get spore up, to slay medivac
if widowmine/hellion/firebats: watch the show, its fun, make wall to rip him appart, use walking spine to abuce his widowmines.
if tank: it can stop the locusts, micro is needed big time, snipe them, use overlords to snipe tank on hi-ground near addges,get muta asap before missle turrets serround the tank, if muta fails, get more drones, and get broodlords, meanwhile you contain him in his base, when try to gain air superiority
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Jun 4 2013 01:38pm
Quote (Tommyvv @ Jun 4 2013 12:16pm)
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This was a perfect example of why you can't decide someone has good advice because they put a lot of words down...
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Jun 4 2013 02:23pm
Quote (Tommyvv @ Jun 4 2013 07:16pm)
Terrans:
build walls to hide behind
build tanks to hide behind
sent tier 1-2 crap ascorted/carried bye expensive madivac to slay drones
sometimes even build mass aounth of fast army-kiting-viracles, to slay drones
even sent some stealth choppers to kill drones
ofc they also have decent units, but you not see them in action alot vs defensive-army.

how i play vs terran:
i build hatchery at my 4e or at terrans 4e, must be out of range from natural-main-tanks, at 15-16drones, 1e overlord is sent there for vision, if get spotted
after that i build pool+2gas
Lair at main
now i put away 2 drones from gas, only 4 are on gas no
Queen at Proxy
1-2*Spine vs reaper or for later at main and at proxy
if i fear hellion, i may make wall, overall its better to keep spine near miniral line, to protect against drops
Lair finish now, buils infestation pit
queen finish now, at 6min, built tumor and sent togethor whit creep-overlord to enemy, to get a verry fast, long ranged creep-hi-way from proxy to terran ramp, whitin 1 min
since your proxy must be father away from terrans then from zerg+protoss, you can sent queen as soon as it finish, you have plenty of time to make swarmhosts
meanwhile you can put thouse 2drones back on gas, for 6gas drones, since you realy want to start locust duration upgrade, even before the first swarmhost spawns
its hard to tell, when and howmany swarmhost you wana keep at main, thats why i only buid them after i attacked
as soon as 3swarmhost+upgrade is finished, attack ramp,
if tank, build more swarmhosts, and snipe tank, get overlord for vision
if hellion, you may wall a little,
if hellion or bio, you may build 1-2swarmhost at main
vs protoss, i sometimes turn my proxy hatchery into a proxy-lair: he not scout my lair / he not kill lair in a base trade / my queen is delayed, not done it yet vs terran, mostly he comes for drone-snipe, instead of base trade, witch allow lower-defences
however, terran have nice tanks/air, etc etc vs swarmhosts, you want that attack urly+concentraded!

ofc get 1-2spore up soon, more if needed,
if bio: watch the show, and relax a little, 2swarmhost at main, will rip him appart, ofc get spore up, to slay medivac
if widowmine/hellion/firebats: watch the show, its fun, make wall to rip him appart, use walking spine to abuce his widowmines.
if tank: it can stop the locusts, micro is needed big time, snipe them, use overlords to snipe tank on hi-ground near addges,get muta asap before missle turrets serround the tank, if muta fails, get more drones, and get broodlords, meanwhile you contain him in his base, when try to gain air superiority


Ah the infamous Tommy I've heard of you :) I'm sorry but I cant really understand the advice very well :S
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Jun 4 2013 02:33pm
Quote (Bubbacyborg @ Jun 4 2013 03:23pm)
Ah the infamous Tommy I've heard of you :) I'm sorry but I cant really understand the advice very well :S


it also doesnt work
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Jun 4 2013 03:04pm
16 hatch 15 gas 15 pool
queen queen speed as soon as pool finishes
from there play reactionary.
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Jun 4 2013 03:09pm
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Jun 4 2013 03:33pm)
it also doesnt work


Have you even tried?
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Jun 4 2013 03:14pm
Quote (NoLimit028 @ Jun 4 2013 04:09pm)
Have you even tried?


no but hes still in one of the metal leagues so it means it doesnt work 50% of the time in the metal leagues
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