so basically i free style atm and i feels like it hurts my play quite a bit

don't need exact build orders unless you feel like giving it
just the basics

for tvz and tvp

unit comps
buildings per base (if im going bio mines vs zerg, how many facts on 3base etc)
timings
maybe proper opening for mech

anything would help

ty

im seeing a correlation here

i wont deny that i have a lot of work to do

doesn't change the fact that zerg and protoss are unskilled fucks

t4t

Hellbats are super duper good.

And widow mines.

More-so widow mines.

ill just ignore that and leave you with some helpful words

make widow mines, burrow them, forget about them, collect ladder points

i get it bro, we have never liked each other since day one
nn to keep posting here



ye less like this and more real info lol

i watch enough flash to know kind of what i should be aiming for
but without knowing how many buildings i should have, i feel like i am wasting resources at times

btw im around low masters atm

TvZ usually works out to 6-7 rax, 2 fact, 1 sp on 3 base I think.

TvP is like the exact same as wings almost.

i recall liking you before then at some point every post you made was depressing and sad and we clashed

in TvZ the best way to play is to open some variation of reaper opener except on Whirlwind where you can go CC first (reapers only have one side to enter on Whirlwind)

reapers force zerg to build 4-6 lings and if you go 2+ reapers and they didn't go 16h 16gas 16pool you will be able to kill infinity zerglings and even kill a queen or two (can still go 1 reaper and force the lings and possibly snipe a drone or two)

then you take your CC on the low ground and start a reactor and a factory and get 4-6 hellions (can use them with the reapers leftover to harrass and force speedlings just dont be stupid and run into his mineral line because any competent zerg will just kill your army and have map control and be able to play very greedy). your barracks will be switched to a tech lab and you start stim asap as well as two more barracks (reactors as soon as they finish) and two engineering bays. start 1-1 and get a starport when u have the gas while making marines, widow mines, and medivacs (at this point your hellions should have forced a lot of lings and you probably killed a lot of them). based on whats going on with the hellions you can gauge when you want to push out, just be careful not to lead too much with the widow mines and let him pick them off because thats disastrous. keep your widow mines in your army and fairly spread out so multiple widow mines aren't set off by a zergling or two. take your third during the push at the third location

alteratively you can build a third CC before the factory and be greedy and do pretty much the same thing except perhaps be more vulnerable to roach ling baneling all ins

this is probably the best way to play tvz

cause i realized protoss was imba as fuk, switched over to terran and experienced real pain

ty for info tho

ill definitely say my zerg hate stems from playing protoss in beta days

This post was edited by soullogik on Apr 22 2013 11:01pm

TvZ I do the WOL forgg build except I go widow mines transition instead of tanks

TvP I just GG

TvT idk it seems like every opener is a damn gamble...gas first into cloak banshee dies to x, if u open that against x you are massivly behind, if u do that against x u lose etc...

I might just stick to my WOL 1 rax FE into 3 rax real soon and just focus on defending anything they throw at me and having better econ/winning or do heavy damage with 10 mins stim combat shield medi push since every build these days they have late stim/cc cuz they all open cheezy

1 reaper expand sucks tvt;; gotta go 2 rax reaper or some shit lol (which is a good build) but reapers dont do much damage except on like star station because all the other maps have ez defendable mains against reapers