I rarely win tvz due to my own skill. I try retarded builds that involve pushes at random times. It's fucking annoying, because tvz is pretty fun once I get to mid game, but it's the fact that I know I have to pressure him early in order to win. That's where I do these fucking stupid builds. This last game, I did a reactor hellion + 3 rax(1 reactor) push, and I got eaten alive. I have no clue how to start my games. I know the build that goes cc into hellion-banshee aggression... and it's usually quite successful. I also can do a 1 rax fe or cc first. Other than that, I got nothing... please help.

Do forgg build, win

I've been going 1rax/fe into hellions/mass rines/rauders/tanks (usually when they see hellions they put a roach warren up). I've had some good success with that. If I see a spire/infestors coming out I go for mech and I usually try to get a couple vikings out to kill some ovies spread around the map.

most terrans do 1 rax 16 cc or cc first

there's so many different versions depending on what you wanna do, really fast 3rd, production before 3rd, etc

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16 cc
double gas off 1 marine
supply
into hellion + banshee (cloak is optional)
about a 7:30ish 3rd or add your production

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16 cc
supply
double gas at around 20 or 21
3rd cc somewhere around here before factory (when i did this build i only put in 2 on gas then put 3 into each as soon as i made my factory + reactor, this is only if you want cloak banshee though, 2 in each gas is perfectly fine for just banshee + a decent gas buildup for upgrades or w/e

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cc first
gas
rax
into hellion banshee

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(I do this atm)

cc first
rax
gas
factory - i don't make hellions, if you really like making hellions it makes no difference, but i guess you can't get a 3rd cc as early
starport
3rd cc about 6:00 mins, it will be before you build your banshee
add 3 gas
double engineering bay

this build also has room for 2 bunkers, i like putting them behind a supply + enginbay wall so they won't get hit when banes hit the wall (they need to be like 1 square behind it)

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if you can be a bit more specific about what you want in a build then i can give you one >_>

This post was edited by Kilala on Oct 25 2012 08:01am

terran god has spoken,



This post was edited by MadeInJapan on Oct 25 2012 08:16am

That feel... I know

I always take a 3rd off 1 gate and tech super fast to double robo colossus
Can't apply any pressure with a low gateway count early game and if the zerg scouts my quick 3rd they skip lings/roaches and goes straight for infestor hive tech off 4-5 bases
By the time I arrive I'm already dead because they have gglords because either mothership tech or archon tech is missing

Make expand, defense it.

Zerglings and Mutalisks and Infestors, oh my!

I think I mentioned this when we played ........ typically just "winging it" leads you to sending armies across the map at inopportune times (and get raped)

1rax FE into 5rax

1rax FE into hellion and go stim instead of banshee ... then you have a ~16 marine 2 medivac 6 hellion timing around 9 minutes

1rax FE into stim and bio pressure --> fast third and beastly macro

Simply going 4 hellion into tank/marine into early third is fine



Let's be honest ....... the matchup is a pretty big joke when 6 queens and speedlings will hold any and all aggression pre-10 minutes. But there are ways to punish baddies

This post was edited by eyewuvd2 on Oct 25 2012 11:38am