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Nov 16 2012 01:56am
Quote (eyewuvd2 @ Nov 16 2012 12:20am)
1-1-1 didnt even get a nerf ????????????


Yeah people just figured it out.
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Nov 16 2012 01:59am
Quote (eyewuvd2 @ Nov 16 2012 08:42am)
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



nope


immortal range 6 was right aroudn then ...... but as we've seen 100x, immortals aren't really necessary


The only reason immortal range 6 was implented was because of 1 1 1

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Nov 16 2012 02:01am
And the Immortal change did stop the 1/1/1.

The original 1/1/1 was much more banshee-based, which made the tanks a lot more exposed for Immortals once the range was upped to 6. This caused many variations of the 1/1/1, which are all still incredibly strong, but not as strong as before.
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Nov 16 2012 02:14am
Quote (820 @ Nov 16 2012 04:01am)
And the Immortal change did stop the 1/1/1.

The original 1/1/1 was much more banshee-based, which made the tanks a lot more exposed for Immortals once the range was upped to 6. This caused many variations of the 1/1/1, which are all still incredibly strong, but not as strong as before.


the 1-1-1 was 99999999999% standardized to fast banshee back into tanks and reactor marine


Even if what you say is true, the extra banshees would come at the expense of less tanks, not less marines

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Nov 16 2012 02:48am
Quote (eyewuvd2 @ Nov 16 2012 12:14am)
the 1-1-1 was 99999999999% standardized to fast banshee back into tanks and reactor marine


Even if what you say is true, the extra banshees would come at the expense of less tanks, not less marines

That's not really true, you'd basically have non stop tank production anyways. The thing you cut is the second rax, most "1/1/1" now days is more of 2/1/1's or something completely different. The 1/1/1 was marine,banshee,tank production off of each.
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Nov 16 2012 02:53am
Quote (Death_killaxx @ 16 Nov 2012 08:37)
I honestly believe that T or P v Z just needs time, because I feel like soon enough, there will come a build that will counter broods and infestors.  Denying scouting is the main way for Protoss to do well in my opinion...Keeping the Zerg in the dark is the best way :)

If you flame me i will post a picture of george cloony in a bikini


Sky comps do well against it if played properly but the problem with those that you can't get it out without a stable five or more base economy. This is only my experience though. Other race's highest techs are too hard to get or just z's too easy to get. It's also pretty bad, that blizzard nullified the cheese and all in factor against zerg. They can play as greedy as they want.
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Nov 16 2012 03:06am
Quote (820 @ 16 Nov 2012 10:48)
That's not really true, you'd basically have non stop tank production anyways. The thing you cut is the second rax, most "1/1/1" now days is more of 2/1/1's or something completely different. The 1/1/1 was marine,banshee,tank production off of each.


Let me guess, terrans were distance mining gas from their natural to support their 1 base all in? Cuz producing extra banshees without cutting tanks is just impossible.
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Nov 16 2012 03:07am
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 16 2012 01:06am)
Let me guess, terrans were distance mining gas from their natural to support their 1 base all in? Cuz producing extra banshees without cutting tanks is just impossible.


You're saying you can't keep a tank and a banshee producing all the time? ;;;;;;;;
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Nov 16 2012 03:08am
Quote (820 @ 16 Nov 2012 11:07)
You're saying you can't keep a tank and a banshee producing all the time? ;;;;;;;;


Off from 1 base? No you can't. Not continously. Without that it's called cutting yo.

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Nov 16 2012 03:49am
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 16 2012 01:08am)
Off from 1 base? No you can't. Not continously. Without that it's called cutting yo.


umm
i think you can, or it's incredibly close where it doesn't really matter =\

Like I can definitely 4 gate double gas and warp in stalkers like every cd off 1 base -o-;

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