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Jul 9 2012 08:28pm
Quote (820 @ Jul 9 2012 07:29pm)
I won't lie for fg.

Well, not for 10fg anyways.


I would never ask anyone to lie

Your team really is a joke
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Jul 9 2012 09:27pm
teach me easiest way to rofflestomp protoss with any build that has an end-game followup and I gief you 100fg
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Jul 9 2012 09:36pm
Quote (OtterJethro @ Jul 9 2012 06:28pm)
I would never ask anyone to lie

Your team really is a joke


Please, tell me why my team is a joke.
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teach me easiest way to rofflestomp protoss with any build that has an end-game followup and I gief you 100fg


Open 2 rax without wall and let the P scout you ( reactor first then tech lab ), get stim, take expansion and start getting medivacs, move our with first medivacs and rally everything to P base. Constantly harass and try to find openings while taking a third. Build up a big enough army and find an opening to doom drop behind a mineral line.

Most P's will play defensive , probably delay their natural. You don't have to be aggressive, you just chill and get your army going. The timing hits way earlier than normal and since most P's will play super safe after scouting 2 rax your timing to start pressuring will most likely result in a win and if it doesn't you still have a good economy.
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Jul 9 2012 09:39pm
Quote (820 @ Jul 9 2012 11:36pm)
Please, tell me why my team is a joke.


Open 2 rax without wall and let the P scout you ( reactor first then tech lab ), get stim, take expansion and start getting medivacs, move our with first medivacs and rally everything to P base. Constantly harass and try to find openings while taking a third. Build up a big enough army and find an opening to doom drop behind a mineral line.

Most P's will play defensive , probably delay their natural. You don't have to be aggressive, you just chill and get your army going. The timing hits way earlier than normal and since most P's will play super safe after scouting 2 rax your timing to start pressuring will most likely result in a win and if it doesn't you still have a good economy.
BOOM


Let them scout the 2rax?

This blasphemy is opposite to everything I've ever heard
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Jul 9 2012 09:43pm
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Let them scout the 2rax?

This blasphemy is opposite to everything I've ever heard


rotfl

when P scouts 2 rax the first response is like OMG THEY GONNA ALL IN ME, most likely they'll 3 gate expand so you're already putting them off what they probably are used to doing. You never actually have to be aggressive, since they're playing safe and your timing hits way earlier than normal anyways you usually just win; if they don't have colossus out you just win and if they do you should be able to punish them with drops. If they went charge or fast temp you just have to wait for like 6 medivacs then fake pressure and load up a huge drop behind a mineral line and laugh while the P tries to engage you behind their mineralzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Jul 9 2012 11:03pm
Quote (820 @ Jul 9 2012 11:43pm)
rotfl

when P scouts 2 rax the first response is like OMG THEY GONNA ALL IN ME, most likely they'll 3 gate expand so you're already putting them off what they probably are used to doing. You never actually have to be aggressive, since they're playing safe and your timing hits way earlier than normal anyways you usually just win; if they don't have colossus out you just win and if they do you should be able to punish them with drops. If they went charge or fast temp you just have to wait for like 6 medivacs then fake pressure and load up a huge drop behind a mineral line and laugh while the P tries to engage you behind their mineralzzzzzzzzzzzzz


yeah, I find 2base temp dies fairly easily to a fast 4 medivac drop at ~ 11 mins





But then they find the T button and i get fucked
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Jul 9 2012 11:03pm
Quote (820 @ Jul 9 2012 11:43pm)
rotfl

when P scouts 2 rax the first response is like OMG THEY GONNA ALL IN ME, most likely they'll 3 gate expand so you're already putting them off what they probably are used to doing. You never actually have to be aggressive, since they're playing safe and your timing hits way earlier than normal anyways you usually just win; if they don't have colossus out you just win and if they do you should be able to punish them with drops. If they went charge or fast temp you just have to wait for like 6 medivacs then fake pressure and load up a huge drop behind a mineral line and laugh while the P tries to engage you behind their mineralzzzzzzzzzzzzz


its sounds like a balance rant if I word it like this

when i scout 2 rax my first response is like OMG THEY GONNA ALL IN ME, most likely i'll 3 gate expand so they're already putting me off what im used to doing. they never actually have to be aggressive, since i'm playing safe and their timing hits way earlier than normal anyways they usually just win; if i don't have colossus out they just win and if i do they should be able to punish me with drops. If i went charge or fast temp they just have to wait for like 6 medivacs then fake pressure and load up a huge drop behind a mineral line and laugh while i try to engage them behind my mineralzzzzzzzzzzzzz

This post was edited by Pants1 on Jul 9 2012 11:23pm
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Jul 9 2012 11:42pm
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its sounds like a balance rant if I word it like this

when i scout 2 rax my first response is like OMG THEY GONNA ALL IN ME, most likely i'll 3 gate expand so they're already putting me off what im used to doing. they never actually have to be aggressive, since i'm playing safe and their timing hits way earlier than normal anyways they usually just win; if i don't have colossus out they just win and if i do they should be able to punish me with drops. If i went charge or fast temp they just have to wait for like 6 medivacs then fake pressure and load up a huge drop behind a mineral line and laugh while i try to engage them behind my mineralzzzzzzzzzzzzz


eh, i got raped by some hacker on ladder who did this to me like 4x and beat me 3 times with the same shit, I won when I just ignored it and went 1 gate expand into standard colossus but the guy is like top 15 gm so it's obviously working for him.

It's not balance cry, it's just a really strong build if you do anything but 1 gate expand. I don't think Terran should play 1rax expand style, a lot of Protoss, like me, nexus first a lot and if you open gas you should get a free win. Opening gas but not doing some all in is really strong in general as it doesn't hurt Terran to stay on 1 base a little longer than usual and it leads to some really good timings that Protoss players aren't used to.
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Jul 9 2012 11:43pm
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yeah, I find 2base temp dies fairly easily to a fast 4 medivac drop at ~ 11 mins





But then they find the T button and i get fucked


Yeah, I mean if you're talking a standard 4 medivac timing, something like that MKP timing from a month or two ago, it's strong but if you open 2 rax stim you get that same strength timing so much faster.
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Jul 9 2012 11:43pm
I just take a 5 minute 3rd base when I see nexus first.

Aint no "free win" vs protoss, nexus first and 1 gate expo can damn near hold anything except a proxy 2 rax.
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