Quote (ownyaah @ Oct 21 2011 01:55pm)

basically the new units fix a dozen of problems. imo
viper is just anti protoss death ball with stalkers/colosus/sentries (forcefields)
swarm host is pretty weird.. i guess it is just a basic harass unit/maby possibile cheese factor?

i seriously have no idea what the replicant is for seems pretty random
oracle is probably to make the protoss play style much more skillful and not just gay allins, now the protoss players actually have to be good cuz macro will be alot more valid ( because it helps protoss keep up the pace ) in such kind of play that we dont see, or rarely do
tempest is probably just to encounter any kind of air play by zerg or terran, probably forces the pvz to go into the hydra roach viper style which i think will flatly crush deathballs instantly, have no idea what effect it will have in tvp

the terran units make no sense

Quote (Hanmin @ Oct 21 2011 06:57pm)

think pvp will stay the same?

Quote (ownyaah @ Oct 21 2011 07:00pm)

pvp will also be much more macro forced if the oracle is such big of an economic kill, other than that, no the units will hardly effect pvp at all
basically tempest is hiigh tier unit and is very much so useless in pvp, replicant just seems random but still might be useful to make dts if u are dted

Quote (ownyaah @ Oct 21 2011 05:58pm)

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET HOLY SHIT FINNALY THEY UNDERSTOOD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOl, btw no more overseers WHAT the fuck? does this mean the old school overlords have detection?

Quote (silentdeathz @ Oct 21 2011 02:02pm)

I'll update as I know more.

EDIT: Burrowed banelings can move. My friend died before he could find out if this is an upgrade. I swear I am not trolling. This is what I'm hearing right now.


frm thread

Quote (GordyK @ Oct 21 2011 02:04pm)

That is going to be SO BADASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude that forces Terran to be an insane Turtling race, becuz your going to have to SCAN across the entire map when moving out. Protoss will just have their normal OBS. WOWOWOWOWOWOWO!!! I'm in love.

Quote (GordyK @ Oct 21 2011 07:00pm)

I agree with you a lot on this one. Terran by far got the short end of the stick here. Although with the new Thor replacement I do see a much better air defense for T. Those Swarm Host's though I see DEFINITE potential. I mean burrowed, forces additional Scans from CC. Which COULD increase Burrowed Baneling play. Think about all the added scans they are going to need with a Swarm Host/Burrowed Baneling strat. PvZ Swarm Host's would be almost pointless. Although as stated possible Swarm Host drops on mineral lines for both T or P matchups would be nice.