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Nov 7 2012 06:01pm
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 7 2012 04:47pm)
letting ghosts do ANYTHING to your infestors mean you are bad, siegetanks are the answer to infestors, nothing else.


Or banshees
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Nov 7 2012 06:02pm
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 7 2012 07:47pm)
letting ghosts do ANYTHING to your infestors mean you are bad, siegetanks are the answer to infestors, nothing else.


Agreed, ghosts can not get in range to snipe/emp anymore in that match up. Zergs make overseers and have too much front line ground units/fungals. I do not even think anyone made ghosts in TvZ at MLG.

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Quote (Death_killaxx @ Nov 7 2012 08:01pm)
Or banshees


If you go marine/tank composition you will not have optimal amount of gas to make banshees. It is all going into upgrades, tanks, marauders and medivacs.

Plus banshees are not that good.

This post was edited by eXpLegend on Nov 7 2012 06:07pm
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Quote (Death_killaxx @ 8 Nov 2012 02:01)
Or banshees


Oh right, in kinda the middle of the game, banshees are perfect for that too, or well if not for knocking them out, but to waste energy from fungals, with spread banshees all over the place, but the lategame banshees are quite useless for that, since the zerg will have powerful anti air in that stage of the game.
Quote (eXpLegend @ 8 Nov 2012 02:02)
Agreed, ghosts can not get in range to snipe/emp anymore in that match up. Zergs make overseers and have too much front  line ground units/fungals. I do not even think anyone made ghosts in TvZ at MLG.


I use ghosts for mass nuking in the super lategame, probably the only use of them nowadays in tvz.
Quote (eXpLegend @ 8 Nov 2012 02:02)
Agreed, ghosts can not get in range to snipe/emp anymore in that match up. Zergs make overseers and have too much front  line ground units/fungals. I do not even think anyone made ghosts in TvZ at MLG.

Edit:

If you go marine/tank composition you will not have optimal amount of gas to make banshees. It is all going into upgrades, tanks, marauders and medivacs.

Plus banshees are not that good.


assuming you are going mech ( wich every terran should nowadays, since bio turned into shit in tvz, in my opinion at least) you'll need banshees anyways.

This post was edited by Cpt_Ghost on Nov 7 2012 06:10pm
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Nov 7 2012 06:14pm
Even in mech I feel banshees are not that good. Fungals/infested terran with corrupters are just too good at controlling air. Unless you are going all out air terran.
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Nov 7 2012 06:21pm
Quote (eXpLegend @ Nov 8 2012 12:14am)
Even in mech I feel banshees are not that good. Fungals/infested terran with corrupters are just too good at controlling air. Unless you are going all out air terran.


In which case you can't lose.
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Nov 7 2012 06:22pm
Quote (Sigzz @ Nov 7 2012 08:21pm)
In which case you can't lose.


What do you mean? Can't lose as Zerg or air Terran?
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Nov 7 2012 06:49pm
Quote (TaY_VaNo @ Nov 6 2012 10:13pm)
better make 2 more early medivacs and add vikings when u need them


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You should always get at least 2-4 medivacs first before adding 2-4 vikings for fast overlord kills. You don't want to do just 1 because 1 is only good for picking off far away overlords...with 2-4 if you scout where he keeps the majority of them you can do serious damage (esp if you couple it with a big push/pressure at the front).

Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 6 2012 11:47pm)
wouldn't call it effective, since the zerg needs to be retarded to clump up those slow ass units, and if something gets in melee range and broodlords are int he back, your thors won't shoot, and  you need plenty of thors. But if  quite a few thors can hit clumped up broodlords they'll get destroyed, but still vikings work off better.


Dis. Thors are not that great against big air targets because they spread too much. Vikings are THE way to go vs broods. But thors can be fucking magic against those corruptor balls that are targetting your vikings :>

Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 7 2012 04:47pm)
letting ghosts do ANYTHING to your infestors mean you are bad, siegetanks are the answer to infestors, nothing else.


Cloak. EMP. GG infestors.

Quote (eXpLegend @ Nov 7 2012 05:02pm)
Agreed, ghosts can not get in range to snipe/emp anymore in that match up. Zergs make overseers and have too much front  line ground units/fungals. I do not even think anyone made ghosts in TvZ at MLG.

Edit:

If you go marine/tank composition you will not have optimal amount of gas to make banshees. It is all going into upgrades, tanks, marauders and medivacs.

Plus banshees are not that good.


I don't often see overseers with Zerg armies unless they're expecting banshees...

Quote (eXpLegend @ Nov 7 2012 05:14pm)
Even in mech I feel banshees are not that good. Fungals/infested terran with corrupters are just too good at controlling air. Unless you are going all out air terran.


It's all about using them well...you can't just amove or focus fire with banshees, it's hit and run. With reapers, hellions, and banshees, Terran was very much designed to be a hit-and-run, high micro, economic damage race. Sometimes people get away from the roots of the race and expect to be able to win huge fights against races that are designed to win huge fights. Protoss, I'm looking at you.

But I'm not saying it's impossible to win big fights. Or that Protoss is OP. Different races with different strengths and different ways of winning games.
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Nov 7 2012 08:53pm
HTs crawl across the map
Can't cloak, can't burrow move
Can't lock units in place or reveal cloak/burrow with spell
Storm can be dodged to deal less damage


Wow, HTs are pretty fucking good compared to infestors/ghosts
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Nov 7 2012 09:08pm
This wasn't meant to be a balance thread. Prz.
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Quote (eXpLegend @ Nov 7 2012 07:02pm)
Agreed, ghosts can not get in range to snipe/emp anymore in that match up. Zergs make overseers and have too much front  line ground units/fungals. I do not even think anyone made ghosts in TvZ at MLG.

Edit:

If you go marine/tank composition you will not have optimal amount of gas to make banshees. It is all going into upgrades, tanks, marauders and medivacs.

Plus banshees are not that good.


taeja and flash made ghosts in tvz

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