Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 23 2015 02:26pm)

Yeah, your reading comprehensin is bad. You are trying t explain things not even relevant. The whole thing started with talking about the liberator, I said they are fine in tvz and the only "problem" may be that they kinda force zerg to go for ravagers early on, to hold liberator pushes, and I said that this shouldn't really be a problem balance wise, since a similar situatioon didn't matter in hots tvz where it was zerg who forced terran into a specific playstyle too survive (Which honestly was way worse than zerg's got it right now, since zerg is the strongest race currently, and no I don't care about your excuses).
In case you wouldn't understand why it may be wrong too enforce a specific playstyle this much is that you, the one who forces that can play ahead of that, and simply counter the counter of what your opponent has assumed you would do and still have the option to do. This is why blink opens were really broken in hots. It forced terran to really commit to defense if he really wanted to hold a blink all in, but protoss could just fake it and take an exp and greed and hold it, because your opponent invested so much into defending your fake all in early on and it was really hard too identify and not to overcommit to defending, or not be committed enough.

Quote (j0ltk0la @ 23 Nov 2015 21:43)

Delete your account, you're awful

Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 23 2015 03:26pm)

Yeah, your reading comprehensin is bad. You are trying t explain things not even relevant. The whole thing started with talking about the liberator, I said they are fine in tvz and the only "problem" may be that they kinda force zerg to go for ravagers early on, to hold liberator pushes, and I said that this shouldn't really be a problem balance wise, since a similar situatioon didn't matter in hots tvz where it was zerg who forced terran into a specific playstyle too survive (Which honestly was way worse than zerg's got it right now, since zerg is the strongest race currently, and no I don't care about your excuses).
In case you wouldn't understand why it may be wrong too enforce a specific playstyle this much is that you, the one who forces that can play ahead of that, and simply counter the counter of what your opponent has assumed you would do and still have the option to do. This is why blink opens were really broken in hots. It forced terran to really commit to defense if he really wanted to hold a blink all in, but protoss could just fake it and take an exp and greed and hold it, because your opponent invested so much into defending your fake all in early on and it was really hard too identify and not to overcommit to defending, or not be committed enough.

Quote (dwalk1989 @ 23 Nov 2015 21:51)

Liberators have nothing to do with it. If zerg needs ravagers now in zvt, they need ravagers. I think it's retarded to say it's ok because terran had to play "retardedly defensive" in hots. There are a million reasons why that's retarded because there are a million things people DO just so they don't die to certain things. Starcraft isn't about personal preference and personal tastes in playstyles. It's about execution and knowledge. You don't look at a roach/baneling all-in and think "man this is gay I can't just defend this with whatever units I choose to build." You try to kill the banelings with hellions, get bunkers, whatever. Terran/Protoss/Zerg has tools to deal with things and they use the proper ones, not whatever the fuck is fun to you.

Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 23 2015 03:56pm)

You are still not talking about the fucking topic, which are liberators.

Quote (dwalk1989 @ 23 Nov 2015 22:07)

Because I'm not talking about liberators. I'm talking about your retarded statement. I quoted it like 14 times now. It's clearly biased bullshit.

Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 23 2015 04:11pm)

I can't believe that you still can't grasp what i am saying and why i am saying it.

Quote (dwalk1989 @ 23 Nov 2015 22:46)

I know exactly what you're saying about liberators. People are already figuring out how to deal with them and I don't think they need to be nerfed. It's possible that they're a little too cost efficient with minimal effort but that's not something that should be rushed into changing.

All this has been about is your retarded statement. And by saying I don't know what you're talking about you're also being retarded. At this point it's just autism.

Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 23 2015 04:53pm)

You are really autistic, you started dickriding on an example completely irrelevant (to the liberator topic)example which i only used to help you understand my reasoning, which you've just agreed with. Yeah, everyone above silver figured out that's how this game works, you learn to play against it or play it, it was never the question, and nobody really gave a fuck about what you said in your previous posts.