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Sep 28 2015 06:48am
what the fuck is the point of coaching gold level players?
dont supply block
make shit continously
expand
make workers coontinously
boom masters
then you can get some coacing.
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Sep 28 2015 07:12am
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Sep 28 2015 07:48am)
what the fuck is the point of coaching gold level players?
dont supply block
make shit continously
expand
make workers coontinously
boom masters
then you can get some coacing.


Coaching works at all levels.

Different things are and are not intuitive for different people.
If the guy wants to improve let him. Most people jus stay same level and whine, at least this guy wants to move.forward
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Sep 28 2015 09:44am
Quote (Sigzz @ 28 Sep 2015 15:12)
Coaching works at all levels.

Different things are and are not intuitive for different people.
If the guy wants to improve let him. Most people jus stay same level and whine, at least this guy wants to move.forward


its just fucking pointless to waste your time on telling people to
MAKE FUCKING WORKERS MAN
DONT FORGET TO MAKE WORKERS
WOOOOOOOOORKEEEEEEEEEERS
DONT GET SUPPLY BLOCKED M8 MAKE MORE WORKERS
nothing else is important below masters
put sticky notes or somethhing on your monitor to remind you or smthin
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Sep 28 2015 09:56am
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Sep 28 2015 10:44am)
its just fucking pointless to waste your time on telling people to
MAKE FUCKING WORKERS MAN
DONT FORGET TO MAKE WORKERS
WOOOOOOOOORKEEEEEEEEEERS
DONT GET SUPPLY BLOCKED M8 MAKE MORE WORKERS
nothing else is important below masters
put sticky notes or somethhing on your monitor to remind you or smthin


Yeah That's. Huge part of it. I don't disagree. But keep in mind they play vs people who make same mistakes. And because of that. Ideas and strategy still play a roll. You can have bad mechanics but good ideas. And when you keep playing your mechanics improve and yoy at least know what to do. Just grinding mechanics will leave you without game knowledge or game sense. Both are important
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Sep 28 2015 12:32pm
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Sep 28 2015 08:44am)
its just fucking pointless to waste your time on telling people to
MAKE FUCKING WORKERS MAN
DONT FORGET TO MAKE WORKERS
WOOOOOOOOORKEEEEEEEEEERS
DONT GET SUPPLY BLOCKED M8 MAKE MORE WORKERS
nothing else is important below masters
put sticky notes or somethhing on your monitor to remind you or smthin


Honestly, I was only gold at best and I could have used some coaching. Learning how to scout better, learning how to immediately know what to build from what I see him building, how to counter against cheese, etc...

I know I'm bad but there's a lot more than building workers+not being supply capped from Gold - Masters lol.
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Sep 28 2015 01:04pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ 28 Sep 2015 20:32)
Honestly, I was only gold at best and I could have used some coaching. Learning how to scout better, learning how to immediately know what to build from what I see him building, how to counter against cheese, etc...

I know I'm bad but there's a lot more than building workers+not being supply capped from Gold - Masters lol.


no there isnt
i'll beat the shit out of any diamond making only marines not giving a fuck about what he does
same applies to stalkers and roaches
well maybe not anymore, i havent played in ages again lel

This post was edited by Cpt_Ghost on Sep 28 2015 01:05pm
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Sep 28 2015 01:10pm
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no there isnt
i'll beat the shit out of any diamond making only marines not giving a fuck about what he does
same applies to stalkers and roaches
well maybe not anymore, i havent played in ages again lel


I think yours underestimating kids these days. Maybe roach mass.can work. Kappa.

But. It's.more than macro now imo
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Sep 28 2015 01:25pm
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Sep 28 2015 02:04pm)
no there isnt
i'll beat the shit out of any diamond making only marines not giving a fuck about what he does
same applies to stalkers and roaches
well maybe not anymore, i havent played in ages again lel


oh theres way more than just building workers lol

you haven't played LotV very much but trust me, i have good macro and i lose a lot because i just don't know wtf to build
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Quote (dwalk1989 @ 28 Sep 2015 21:25)
oh theres way more than just building workers lol

you haven't played LotV very much but trust me, i have good macro and i lose a lot because i just don't know wtf to build


yes but you were grandmaster something, so you aren't playing against gold level boiz
Quote (Sigzz @ 28 Sep 2015 21:10)
I think yours underestimating kids these days. Maybe roach mass.can work. Kappa.

But. It's.more than macro now imo


maybe im underestimating them, its obviously somewhat harder nowadays than it used to be in wol, but it still stands that you can beat anyone under masters by making a single type of unit ignoring everything else in the game with a perfect(hell , not even perfect, just a solid one) macro, micro isnt even necessary

Quote (Sigzz @ 28 Sep 2015 17:56)
Yeah That's. Huge part of it. I don't disagree. But keep in mind they play vs people who make same mistakes. And because of that. Ideas and strategy still play a roll. You can have bad mechanics but good ideas. And when you keep playing your mechanics improve and yoy at least know what to do. Just grinding mechanics will leave you without game knowledge or game sense. Both are important


yeah, but having good ideas isn't something you should be taught. You either have them, or you have to develop a thinking, and that won't really be done in some hours of coaching. People should read up stuff, watch streams and basically just play the game. Coaching is a waste of money for the customer and is a waste of time for the teacher if you aren't at least masters. At that point to make a step forward you might need that little push what coaching is.

This post was edited by Cpt_Ghost on Sep 28 2015 01:52pm
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Sep 28 2015 02:09pm
Going to have to disagree with you.

Your argument is basically anti education.

The same argument you made can be applied to learning in school. And yet. Teachers are everywhere because the average person just isn't intuitive to figure everything out. Sc2 no different.

I bet if most people did a lot of math they'd figure out calculus too. But here we are
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