Quote (raineplayshalo2 @ Jan 30 2014 11:28pm)
in other words I was never angry, I was just playing the role of the inevitable angry person complaining about the glaring shittiness of your tournament because I was bored. Then you took it wrong, which is understandable, and made it stupid.
the prize pool was god tier, the running of it was mentally handicapped.
everything minus 2 no shows could have been dealt with easily.
On to your balance stuff that you, for some reason, posted.
Tell me again what you do to beat low masters, it's really important info as to how strong zerg is/was. I've done several ~50-X diamond to top master level jobs while doing dumb/joke builds. But fuck it, you beat them with a race you barely understood. It's like I did the same with protoss.
Zerg was indeed better than the other races at the end of WoL. ZvP though, was under developed. Protosses were mentally handicapped. "Maybe if I make more collossi, I can kill those broods that are flying in the air."
Why make void rays and hts with a mothership when you can make stalker collossi.
Why use mass recall back when you didn't need the mothership to be with your army, when you can just banzai in with only enough energy for 1 vortex.
You could still easily win macro PvZs, ESPECIALLY VERSUS NON PROS. but nah, the community was too busy saying zerg op to use their brains. and the pros were too busy trying to do shitty ass 160 food 3 base collossus all ins which would fail, put them far behind with a useless composition, to understand how to actually macro in a PvZ.
Just picture a lot of upgraded flying units with mothership and HT support. Understand that a mothership has the ability to recall units back without being with them and look at the potential of harass and killing power it has.
Instead, HOTS came out, void rays got a charge on command button and they introduced a 15 range hard counter to broodlords to make sure they never get built again.
Nice.
how did i beat ppl in masters w/ a race i played < 20 games with? i believe i already clearly answered this, but i will reiterate it for you with slightly more detail.
i made infestors after making drones & other stuff to keep myself alive. being able to kill vikings in no time flat with a 100% root was really satisfying - i actually laughed my ass off during some games because this poor bastard terran would make 1 mistake and lose his entire fleet of vikings to 1 micro fuckup. honestly, there are few other things that amused me as much as infestors in wol during zerg supremacy in this game (it has caused me to laugh my ass off mid game). for protoss players, i would basically kill them in the same fashion, but with a bit more tankier shit in the comp. (bl+festor+corrupt+assorted buffer shit every game ultimately)
i am a shit mechanical player (even with toss) and i honestly only get into masters because i am capable of controlling my (usually limited # of) units. i found bl/festor disgusting to watch and to personally micro...it was extremely powerful and required some serious care from your opponents or you would just auto-win. i won a lot of games i should not have won (sometimes really convincingly) because of this extremely good unit... and what probably made it worse was how awful some zerg players actually controlled their units (from what ive seen) - definitely the worst out of the 3 races from my exp.
so all im really saying (like i always have) is that infestor was op, which led me to say zerg was op... (it kind of follows when you have 1 method of taking a fat shit on your opponent reliably)
this opinion isn't coming out of left field, because fungal was nerfed REALLY heavily...I said it 100+ times before it happened and i would have bet a shitload of money on that happening because it used to frustrate me to no end.
on to the tourny, it hasn't ended... i said that i dont care how long it takes (although i had hopes we could do it quickly in the beginning). january is finally coming to an end and i will have some free time soon once the new year craze settles down at work.
i believe you were supposed to play forsaken? what happened there? it's a non-duration tourny...... so i really dont care anyway. id rather wait for mini/daloze/robin and then have an epic semi-finals/finals night just for jsp.
and on to the point you seem to have overlooked - you had a choice to make before posting what you quoted above:
-you could have pm'd me
-you have offered some form of help (honestly, the '5 min challonge setup' here would have been great)
-you could have restrained yourself & said nothing
-you could complain through a post that 'someone would eventually make', yet never made, since your post.
if you truly cared for its success, you would pm me that shit - because it really does little more than stir things up & irritate me when i had already said i was not in a good position to run it. i actually got 2 pms from ppl i didnt know (1 who is in the tourny) telling me essentially to ignore what you posted lol. this is largely the reason i think you need to lighten up - you just seem very negative.
tldr: infestors were very very very good, and the tourny will finish in time (still accepting help - lmk if you'd like to dedicate yourself to running the bracket - lets see how many pms i get
). feel free to post reps (panther, cpt, etc) in the tourny thread.
This post was edited by Perf3ction on Jan 31 2014 01:28am