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Jun 1 2013 08:46pm
imo, greed = "i lose if i attack, ie not safe"

but what innovation did not have to be greedy. you can open in all the exact ways and still be safe from that.


if youre in diamond and youre playing a plat player, do you be greedy or play it safe?

innovation played greedy despite playing safe with the tank to stop symbols cheeses the round before.

it doesnt make any sense to me.

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Jun 1 2013 08:48pm
Quote (x]FoRsaKeN[x @ Jun 1 2013 09:45pm)
how can you play sc any not even know who soulkey is lol. have you ever played bw or wol?


do you see my username

i did not play sc1 at all.

i came to this shitty game from halo, and because of two reasons: 1. someone told me that I thought this game sucked balls because I, myself, was terrible at it. 2. kiom bought it so i decided to as well.


and playing wings =/= knowing players of brood war that arent the big 4 or legends.
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Jun 1 2013 08:54pm
Quote (raineplayshalo2 @ Jun 1 2013 10:46pm)
imo, greed = "i lose if i attack, ie not safe"

but what innovation did not have to be greedy. you can open in all the exact ways and still be safe from that.


if youre in diamond and youre playing a plat player, do you be greedy or play it safe?

innovation played greedy despite playing safe with the tank to stop symbols cheeses the round before.

it doesnt make any sense to me.


Soulkey is a known macro player and almost never relies on all-ins or early aggression, his gameplay focuses on defense and counter attacking unlike Symbol who is known as a notorious cheeser, and goes for all out attack on almost all of his games
Its Innovation that didn't adjust just his gameplay after seeing the first all-in. Soulkey played perfectly well and despite his all-ins not being "well executed" it still won him games and he dominated the only real macro game played in the series
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Jun 1 2013 09:01pm
yes its definitely more so innovations fault than soulkeys good play
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Jun 1 2013 09:08pm
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yes its definitely more so innovations fault than soulkeys good play


So Soulkey scouts a weakness in innovations play and exploited that in the best way possible to help him win games rather than "look good"
How does that make him a bad player?
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Jun 1 2013 09:12pm
it doesnt if he thinks all ins are best % at winning

it does if he hopes innovation, the best terran/player in the world doesnt react or even just do a random safe build because hes better/ahead 3-0
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Jun 1 2013 09:16pm
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it doesnt if he thinks all ins are best % at winning

it does if he hopes innovation, the best terran/player in the world doesnt react or even just do a random safe build because hes better/ahead 3-0


But he scouted always scouted innovation and confirmed whether it was a 3CC play or hellbat drop opener
meanwhile Innovation was being cocky as shit and I don't even think he scanned once from Legend's view
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Jun 1 2013 09:22pm
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So Soulkey scouts a weakness in innovations play and exploited that in the best way possible to help him win games rather than "look good"
How does that make him a bad player?


he didnt all in cuz he scouted any "weakness" in innovations play lol, he all ined because of weakness in his own.. lol

that 3cc is actually standard hots play, you play "safe" as you describe it vs an equal zerg who just plays a normal game and you fall behind

furthermore, zerg can out-greed any race if they so choose

soulkey was impressive game 7 though, but that was the only game (despite innovation suiciding 3 medivacs into mutas which prolly cost him the game)

e: just fyi i dont think he played shitty cuz he allin'd, i think he played shitty because the allins were executed shitty.

also:

Quote (LegendaryIcicle @ Jun 1 2013 10:54pm)
he dominated the only real macro game played in the series


plz watch game 2 and see how soulkey lost a macro game despite innovation being behind in every way after failed hellbat drops

This post was edited by Kamachi on Jun 1 2013 09:28pm
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he didnt all in cuz he scouted any "weakness" in innovations play lol, he all ined because of weakness in his own.. lol

that 3cc is actually standard hots play, you play "safe" as you describe it vs an equal zerg who just plays a normal game and you fall behind

furthermore, zerg can out-greed any race if they so choose

soulkey was impressive game 7 though, but that was the only game (despite innovation suiciding 3 medivacs into mutas which prolly cost him the game)

e: just fyi i dont think he played shitty cuz he allin'd, i think he played shitty because the allins were executed shitty.

also:



plz watch game 2 and see how soulkey lost a macro game despite innovation being behind in every way after failed hellbat drops


roach hydra timing is a macro game OKAY LOL
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Jun 1 2013 09:40pm
the hellbat drop wasnt even failed

over reacted hard

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