thats the funny shit
broodlord are not loosing from the spores
locust not allow bloodling serround, allow spore overrun.

yesterday i was watching a replay, and i did some bad micro,
i run 1 spore under 10 muta, i needed to go Off-creep to enter his creep, it was under attack for 15+seconds, and still it managed to bring down a muta, for the 2sec i was shooting.

a little teoriecraft about broodlord vs spore:
Brood Lord: 1.4062 speed / 9.5range
Spore: 2.5 speed on-creep / range 7 / 6seconds Root time

So if spore starts to root under broodlord,
1.4062*6seconds=8.44range the broodlord can fly away
broodlord have only 1.44seconds to fly away from 1 spore, if laster it sill be shotted
2-3spores rooting arround broodlord position not allow broodlord to escape.
be sure, that broodlord can ascape to hi-ground, whitin 7range

yes, a little broken, but then zerga-players should build muta less, then there was nn to make spores imba!
they should give spores a little void-damage bonus!

So how much of a failure do you have to be IRL to not allow anyone to have fun on the internet?
Can only imagine how proud your parents are.

I sure have to be.

good player micro'iong the BL's should never, ever die to spores imo. if they scoot and shoot the broodlings, should be able to escape 99% of the dps from the spores... :/

howmany zergling does it take to kill 1 spine crawler?


spine:
2armor
300life
25damage Cooldown: 1.85sec ===> effective dps vs 35life zergling = 35/50*25/1.85 = 9.5dps



zergling:
5damage-2armor / Cooldown .696 = 4.31zergling dps vs spine

300life needs to be destroyed / 4,31 dps zerglings = 69,6 attack seconds for 1 zergling, if not die.
goal = zergling die+spine die, everything dies!

35life zergling / 9,5spine dps = 1zergling die every 3.69seconds = 0.271zergling die per second

69.6 seconds/ avg number of zergling *0.271zerglings destroyed per second from spine = total numbers of zerglings

(69.6 / x)* 0.271 = 2 x
(69.6/x)= 7.38 x

x = 3.1
total number of zerglings needed to destroy 1 spine = 7

spine cost = 7minirals for larve + 25minrals for drone + 100minirals for spine = 132minirals (125excl. larve)
zergling cost = (7*0.5larve+25+(1/16supply*100))*7zerglings = 243.25 (218.8, excl. larve)

if zerglings, you need extra larve=no free larve
if spine, nn extra larve=sheaper, almost free larve

so to protect myself vs urly zerglings, its beter to build 2 spines, then to build zerglings, even if 1 spine kill them all, ontop you have 2areas covered



as you see i made mistake!
(288.2 / x)* 0.77 = 2 x
288.2/x = 2.6 x
x = 10.5 = 21 zergling needed to destroy hatchery


i just showed thats its imposible to micro your broodlord out of mutliple-spore-overrun, since the fast root time+slow fly time
the only option, is to attack whit broodlord, off-creap or from hi-ground/cliffs

the locust kill broodlings, not the spores, locusts preventing the broodling to surround the spore, to block overrun. or what do you mean whit ''scoot and shoot the broodlings''?

e/
ontop
spore dps = 52.3 vs bio-air
broodlord dps = 8
broodlings dps per bloodlord, when fully stacked = 8sec duration + 1spam per 2.5sec + 6.2dps = 19.84dps
total dps when firing longer then 8 sec = 27.84 dps from broodlord at 713minirals(incl gas)
spore = 125minirals

27.84dps / 713minirals = 0.039 dps per miniral invested in broodlords
52.3 / 125 = 0.418 dps per miniral invested in spores

0.418/0.039=10.72% dps of spores
10.72% dps of spores = 100%dps of broodlings
per invested miniral.

e2/
so if you add near double life+tec-costs ontop of that
its about 5% of minirals needed in spores to destroy 100% of the resorces someone invested in broodlords, only thx to swarmhost

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Jun 2 2013 12:02pm

This is a related rates problem.

yesterday i was playing a little zerg vs zerg vs my frend
and i was wild, so i not build swarmhosts, but roaches


the fun shit was that 10rouches counth for 2 spines.



i have 7 more roaches, and still loose the battle. no fancy micro or any involved!

spine ground dps=13.5
roache ground dps = 8
queen dps = 8

13.5*2+8=35dps from 2 spine+1queen
8*7=56dps from 7 extra rouches

i start battle, i even get reinmforcments of like 5-6roaches, i even force-fire-click on the roaches, i even snipe 2 rouches, before spines are in range
but the extra range of spores+queen, give him the battle win anywhy!
2 swarmhost would have slayed them all!

next time just expand then instead of trying to win against defender's advantage...

Micro management does not exist, right?

not to mention that he excluded range and movementspeed.
by his theory all zerglings teleport immediately right around the spinecrawler.