no real lan exp @ sc2

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Happy

And as for "didnt reall seem like X" it seemed pretyt damn good to me. Lots of drops, great splits.

Seems like people are expecting plays which not a single pro out there can live up to.

Also, happy's style is better for ladder than it is for lans where ppl can prepare beforehand. he generally does the same thing every time.

This post was edited by silentdeathz on Jun 19 2011 02:29am

and no way you don't hear the crowed nearly as much as you did during mlg not even 10% of the noise from the mlg croud... it's different mics that pick up directed sounds or area sounds. but they are no where near similar *crowed noise of DH vs MLG
and what about the german stream? o.O

and I'm just saying I expect a bit more out of #1 eu GM with a nearly 1000 games played 82% win rate, those stats have an expectation connected to them whether he likes it or not...

he's not letting me down at all I've never seen him play before today so it's all new to me with happy, but getting outplayed by haypro in such a onesided fashion was surprising...

I dont see how he was 'outplayed by haypro in such a onesided fashion' AT ALL.

The bomber match is on the GERMAN stream.

Dont know how u didnt hear the crowd all the time yesterday.

I never said I couldn't hear them, where did you even read that. I said it's very quiet, a faint noise compared to the roar of MLG

wtf are you talking about the bomber match o.O we're talking about happy I know where bomber is I posted that first... this shit seems so confusing I think we're on the wrong page.

and I say it was one sided because it simply was, haypro expanded with barely any resistance all the way to 5 bases, all of happy's attacks were shut down pretty convincingly and allowed to tech to brood infestor freely exactly where a terran doesn't want a zerg.
maybe it wasn't one sided in terms of pure attacking but looking from a macro/teching game it was one sided.


edit: like there you hear the crowed it sounds like maybe 50 people clapping... did you watch MLG? it was intensely loud, maybe that's because of the different fans american vs swede etc.. but I'm just stating that MLG's audio of the crowed was much better and crisp

This post was edited by Latto on Jun 19 2011 02:43am

Lots of happy's drops were extremely successful sniping hatchery etc.

I said khaldors stream is the german one because, i dont know if u know, but unlike mlg they are all in giant hall stages. TB's stream for example has its own mini arena, thus you wont hear giant crowds like mlg on every stream.

Personally ive been hearing crowds as loud as MLG on day9's stream. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Frustrating to read every1 like OMG THEY ALL SUCK ALL SO BAD. All the time. Apparently moon and idra etc are all bronze league players according to this forum. Its most laughable. Perhaps people have some redic and unrealistic standards from watching random highlights or vods posted on the interwebs where pros happen to get some clutch play or whatever that they generally dont, and people seem to expect that every game.

Also, its 10 45am now, crowd will obv be quiet.

This post was edited by silentdeathz on Jun 19 2011 02:46am

yeah I saw you type that yesterday, and it means nothing today also. when someone's play is bad I will call them on it, I'm not critical in just blurting out stuff like orracle or whoever and infact during moons first game I defended him, but if you continued to watch the series it was fucking atrocious play. why am I not allowed to comment on a players horrible gameplay when it truly is outright horrible?
I never said idra was bronze so you can just stop putting words in people's mouth and assuming bs (if anything I think idra is the best or top 3 players outside of korea and I have said so in the past, but with his shitty mentality... yeah..) I'm fair when judging professional starcraft players and I don't expect amazing play from them during every game.
but with happy's stats I expected more, his play was rather lack luster and if you deny that then idk wtf you're watching. PRO sc2 players should play like a PRO as a professional in any aspect is expected to live up to their profession.
so what are you getting at? or just continuing to display that you enjoy being conceited and thinking you're better than everyone and assume everyone else thinks and acts like X

when players play bad then they play bad don't make excuses for them when they're professional players. if they can't perform what they are expected to then there are more deserving players that should take their spot. I'm not saying happy should be replaced or anything and I'm not writing him off after one series heck he's probably really nervous..
I'll finish this after the games...

Nowhere did i say that YOU said idra etc were bronze.

The concept of using an...nvm not worth my time as you wont understand it even if i explain it.

The problem is not people saying X pro is playing poorly but saying things like "oh he doesnt even belong in this tournament" "hes bronze league" which is ridiculous.

ps - i'd consider reading thta wall of text if it were properly spaced out and well written. I'm not even going to attempt to work my way through that.

Also, you're the one trying to enforce your opinion such as "I say it was one sided because it simply was". Apparently my view on the game isnt valid because you have spoken right? And im the conceited one?!

This post was edited by silentdeathz on Jun 19 2011 03:24am

I actually never expected much out of Happy. Beyond his WLR, he doesn't really have a "name" for himself.

You see people like Moon who compete in all these events and do awful. SC2 "Pro" is thrown around so loosely IMO.

Ye, happys style doesnt work out as well vs opponents who get to prepare for him beforehand. His macro tends to slip quite a bit in longer games too.

I dont think many people, if any, expected happy to win this or anything.

And as for pro, a pro is simply someone who earns their living through playing. You dont necessarily need to be the best or even good. Although obviously you cant make a living if you arent good unless you have some other niche or such to rely on.

Imo its somewhat down to a lack of class rankings within the higher tier 'pro' levels. Especially when it comes to tourns. Theres a large disparity between the best and the lower end pros in sc2.

The GSL has a somewhat good system but it doesnt really fit into events such as DH.

This post was edited by silentdeathz on Jun 19 2011 03:30am

The problem is how "Pro" refers to anyone who makes a living doing something. It's so subjective.

It's similar to the poker players who grind out 100NL 8-12 hours a day. Sure they're "Pro" in that sense, but as far as skill goes, they couldn't be further from it.