i honestly find hydras to be the most threatening to my robo all in... but yeah, good roach/ling control can get it done too.

id say hydra is a pretty shit unit - but it works well at the right timings...albeit those timings are narrow as fuck lol

That's why you transition out of hydra's as soon as you see the protoss taking a third. It's not like they're gonna all in you with gateway units and storm.

Hydra's with range take out everything and don't give two shits abouts forcefields.

this.
Hydras are cost inefficient right now, but I was talking about a time after they reduce it's gas cost to 25. Then it will be hell. Hydras just tear shit apart, they die fast to aoe (if you don't have aoe ur fucked, mass hydras rape bio wm if the t doesn't have tanks) like marines, except that marines are easier to micro. So if the cost nerf kicks in u'll just overwhelm shit with cheap hydras who rape every single unit until your opponent gets decent aoe. Most all ins don't really have any aoe.

oh yeah, that would be good

100 min 25 gas hydras would max around 11:30 id imagine

that will kill the majority of all builds that you would expect a roach max to kill

Yep, except it wouldn't die to 2 void rays or 5 sentries and 3 immortals.

The idea isn't to kill the protoss with your hydra's though. They are strictly to hold off their all-ins or annoy them if they decide to play a macro game, while you transition into something useful late game.

This post was edited by brt2 on Jan 27 2014 08:20am

OHAI

Roach/hydra 2/2 timing/allin in ZvT is pretty scary as-is .. and now it will be scarier. Hydra use in zvz is pretty standard O.o

buff protoss , my oracle can only kill 6 marines Kappa

pls kid don't argue with raine, hes our overlord.

also despite his rage hes usually correct

This post was edited by ownyaah on Jan 27 2014 12:10pm