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Aug 13 2013 04:44pm
Quote (NoLimit028 @ 13 Aug 2013 23:12)
Overmistificate*


:lol:
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Aug 13 2013 07:49pm
I believe in you, don't give up your dream
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Aug 13 2013 08:14pm
yep too old
u old enough to be my grandpa
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Aug 14 2013 07:24pm
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/tezj1/i_just_quit_my_full_time_job_to_play_and_stream/

^ Here, have an inspiring story.

My answer? I was a C+ in iCCup and had a couple really great clutch matches but I don't think I could really make any money playing SC1.

I decided to play War 3 because it was a LOT slower and a LOT easier. I was in the W3AL and on a sponsored team. I wasn't a starter but I was their first sub for human and I could probably still do the t2 tower rush build in my head. The closest I ever got to being "paid" was when after winning a couple bo5s I wanna say March of...2007? They mailed me a Logitech MX518. Was pretty cool. But no.

I was also on a couple Quake Live teams but, again, it's not like you're making a ton of money or anything.

Imo, it's worth the stability in your life and for your family to not do it. Spend time with your son/daughter instead. ^^;
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Aug 14 2013 07:29pm
too late, you have to establish yourself as a player to the community inorder to get the tournament invites these days.
the event producers care more about hailing in loads of viewers. If you make a name for yourself it can happen, yes you can establish a decent salary by the help of team, sponsors, twitch incom, participating in events ect.
theres alot of work to be done.
But getting there is tough, and alot hard work and dedication.
Look at msSpyte, she is a girl, that hails in atleast 90-100% of her audience., which she attracted quickly..
So what will your signature move be? whats your trade mark?.. This is probably the biggest one.
Personally I think you should keep your job and play as much starcraft you can and just enjoy the game, and let the koreans do the hard work.
It's still a great spectator sport.
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Aug 18 2013 06:21am
i dont think your wife would like to carry the entire family on her own

as takat said enjoy your family as long as it last :)
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Aug 18 2013 12:42pm
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I'm the guy who has always said, man I really want to take this serious and so something with this game.. since BW

I've been semi-decent, low masters, not much time dedicated... b+ back in broodwar...

I'm nearing 28 years old though... I dont feel my reflexes have slipped, or I'm slow to react to things...

I'm married, have a kid, and have a full time job, but I literally dream about being as good as those guys up on the stage..


I'm really not trying to be naive about it... but... is it too late for me?... My wife has a full-time job that would easily carry both of us...  and Scarlett is a prime example of someone who can put the effort in and catch up with the group.


Plz no flame but... should I give it a shot?..


You were not B+ in Brood War, period. Link to your iccup account if you insist on lying. Starcraft 2 is an amazingly easy game, anyone who was B+ at Brood War would be top masters relatively easy in just a couple weeks of play, and age and reflexes has nothing to do with it.

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Aug 18 2013 12:48pm
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You were not B+ in Brood War, period. Link to your iccup account if you insist on lying.  Starcraft 2 is an amazingly easy game, anyone who was B+ at Brood War would be top masters relatively easy in just a couple weeks of play, and age and reflexes has nothing to do with it.


ya i found that odd too
but if he doesnt play much...

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Quote (PURE- @ Aug 18 2013 06:42pm)
You were not B+ in Brood War, period. Link to your iccup account if you insist on lying.  Starcraft 2 is an amazingly easy game, anyone who was B+ at Brood War would be top masters relatively easy in just a couple weeks of play, and age and reflexes has nothing to do with it.


As an SC2 grandmaster and once aspiring pro I can try to shed a little light... There are many "A level iccup" players who switched to sc2, play full time, and are nowhere near the pro level. There are tiers upon tiers of amateur level korean players who are top 200 over in South Korea and don't even have a spot as an unpaid replacement practice partner on the lowest quality team. Thousands of hours of practice behind these tiers are top 500-1000 quality korean players who can infiltrate North America's GM league on a lazy afternoon.

If you watch wcs korea you'll notice that those who consistently place and manage enough success to stay paid are seasoned veterans. They did not take up sc2 on a whim and put in 14 hours a day. For the most part (there are always exceptions) they come from strong BW backgrounds and 10 hour regimens which they have been participating in for more than 5 years.

These regimens are not just playing the game and watching vods and smashing opponents in time. These players smash out games against the same build over and over and over, against the same top level player, and find every possible hole and fill it. They essentially have a full time staff analyzing and preparing ideal strategy, and spend every spare minute obsessing over the minutest of details.

Right now I stand in the 150-200 range in NA GM league. I placed into masters within a month of getting sc2, and was in mid master shortly after. The gap from where you say you are now and high NA GM is gigantic. The gap between where I am right now and being able to take a single 20 minute game off a korean pro is 10X farther than I've already come, and it took me till now to realize it.

If you don't love sc2 more than your wife, you cannot expect to endure the number of plateau cycles that you will inevitably hit trying to climb from such a low level.


With all that said, that says nothing to how fucking great of a game sc2 really is, and how much fun the journey will be. I made a similar post years ago, and received a lot of shit from those who had no experience and just wanted to say I couldn't.

I could have probably used a bit of factual information from someone who had been down a similar path, but I was more keen to being inspired than I was in being deterred. I don't regret my decision, and in attempting and failing I doubt you would regret yours either.
I just cannot stress enough how competitive and demanding this profession is, and how deceptively simple it seems to the unenlightened.



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Aug 20 2013 12:11pm
Quote (PURE- @ Aug 18 2013 02:42pm)
You were not B+ in Brood War, period. Link to your iccup account if you insist on lying.  Starcraft 2 is an amazingly easy game, anyone who was B+ at Brood War would be top masters relatively easy in just a couple weeks of play, and age and reflexes has nothing to do with it.


for someone's profile who is so openly Christian, you sure do love to jump to conclusions and cast the first stone of judgment, hypocrite.

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