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Oct 7 2013 11:17pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Oct 7 2013 11:43pm)
It was just one example of Blizzard coddling the players, as opposed to forcing them to figure things out on their own.  It wasn't intended as a shot against any race (I play random).



6 pool, 3 rax, 4 gate, 1-1-1...these were builds that the community, at the time, was incredibly negative about, especially seeing them at the pro level.  The reason we don't see much 1 base play?  Because there is already this mental attitude against them from previous all-ins...and Blizzard decided to patch them essentially out of existence with widow mines and nexus cannons.


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Oct 8 2013 09:55am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Oct 7 2013 11:43pm)
It was just one example of Blizzard coddling the players, as opposed to forcing them to figure things out on their own.  It wasn't intended as a shot against any race (I play random).



6 pool, 3 rax, 4 gate, 1-1-1...these were builds that the community, at the time, was incredibly negative about, especially seeing them at the pro level.  The reason we don't see much 1 base play?  Because there is already this mental attitude against them from previous all-ins...and Blizzard decided to patch them essentially out of existence with widow mines and nexus cannons.


The primary reason we don't see 1 base play is because Blizzard removed maps like Steppes of War. It's not some strange stigma against cheesing or 1 basing, they just don't work as well on much bigger maps. This happened in WoL too, with the exception being PvP.
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Oct 8 2013 10:49am
The protoss race just isn't good enough to take past the first 5 minutes so people just 1 base to get it over with.
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Oct 8 2013 05:23pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Oct 8 2013 02:43pm)
6 pool, 3 rax, 4 gate, 1-1-1...these were builds that the community, at the time, was incredibly negative about, especially seeing them at the pro level.  The reason we don't see much 1 base play?  Because there is already this mental attitude against them from previous all-ins...and Blizzard decided to patch them essentially out of existence with widow mines and nexus cannons.


Seeing the odd one base play here and there is actually good for the game imo, nexus cannon however made protoss essentially immune to a lot of 1-base attacks which is a questionable decision.
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Oct 8 2013 05:32pm
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The protoss race just isn't good enough to take past the first 5 minutes so people just 1 base to get it over with.


Tosses aren't really 1 basing at all. It's 2 base.
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Oct 8 2013 06:11pm
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Oct 8 2013 08:55am)
The primary reason we don't see 1 base play is because Blizzard removed maps like Steppes of War. It's not some strange stigma against cheesing or 1 basing, they just don't work as well on much bigger maps. This happened in WoL too, with the exception being PvP.


Yes, I think Blizzard has done some shitty things with map design as well. But it's still possible for Terran/Protoss to do proxy all-ins, which are pretty potent on 2 player maps. Also, HotS unit design as mentioned previously.

Quote (canetoado @ Oct 8 2013 04:23pm)
Seeing the odd one base play here and there is actually good for the game imo, nexus cannon however made protoss essentially immune to a lot of 1-base attacks which is a questionable decision.


I'm glad we agree here.
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Oct 9 2013 11:30am
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Hope bard liked my nudes.


i dont believe u
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That first one made me lol.
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Oct 9 2013 12:56pm
No difference, both dead.
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