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Sep 5 2013 10:27pm
Quote (raineplayshalo2 @ Sep 6 2013 02:23pm)
the post needs to be 10x longer than that to make me believe x.x


ok if u belive in tommyvv statistics you will see that mech is already inba;

we look at for example siege tank is range 13, x24 siege tank with 35.109% increase if efficiency due to armory removal
+/- if you nerfed medvacc where they gonna hide from bling
55% resources used on mech is already cut
what zerg gonna do unless creep highway connection of over 29% map

3.33/13.77=2.42
22.22/28.74=0.77

2.42/0.77*100% = 314% resorces efficientcy from tommyvvv compared to usage of current mech
u changes to terran make no sense
this game not work unless 3509% of bling is 90% detonation hit accurately

also mech higround vision means tank widowmin can stop all zerg harrase
if muta is lost by 32.9705% how will u response¿
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Sep 5 2013 11:10pm
lmfao

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Sep 6 2013 01:08am
Quote (irimi @ Sep 5 2013 03:18am)
can someone enlighten me on this sentiment?  i see this claim so often from terran players - what is the basis of the claim that protoss/zerg players multitask less than terran?


Terrans consistently lose to protoss players on the ladder who average 60 APM

No1 said anything about zerg
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Quote (Svartermetalisk @ Sep 6 2013 09:08am)
Terrans consistently lose to protoss players on the ladder who average 60 APM

No1 said anything about zerg


I don't play Protoss, but every time I face them it feels like they have two control groups.

1: All units in a ball (Hence death ball)
2: HT

Doesn't seem hard to control at all, and what micro is required? Cautiously backing with your colossus so they wont be in front after A-moving.
As a terran player I always have to be ready with many things before engaging...

1: Scan ahead, snipe observer with viking.
2: Cloaking ghosts, sniping as many HT I can
3: making sure my army is lined up and not all together.
4: Sieging up in the best possible way to cover all my forces.
5: Splitting all units as the rain of fire of storms lands upon me and destroys everything I have.



I'm sorry if I feel sceptical, and I'm defiantly not on that level in the game to complain. But I really do have a hard time with late-game protoss.
The only matches I win vs. protoss going Bio, is the once not lasting more than 20 minutes.
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Sep 6 2013 03:52am
Quote (Spetch @ Sep 6 2013 07:26pm)
I don't play Protoss, but every time I face them it feels like they have two control groups.

1: All units in a ball (Hence death ball)
2: HT

Doesn't seem hard to control at all, and what micro is required? Cautiously backing with your colossus so they wont be in front after A-moving.
As a terran player I always have to be ready with many things before engaging...

1: Scan ahead, snipe observer with viking.
2: Cloaking ghosts, sniping as many HT I can
3: making sure my army is lined up and not all together.
4: Sieging up in the best possible way to cover all my forces.
5: Splitting all units as the rain of fire of storms lands upon me and destroys everything I have.



I'm sorry if I feel sceptical, and I'm defiantly not on that level in the game to complain. But I really do have a hard time with late-game protoss.
The only matches I win vs. protoss going Bio, is the once not lasting more than 20 minutes.


play protoss then ^^
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Sep 6 2013 05:29am
Quote (Ferrite @ Sep 6 2013 11:52am)
play protoss then ^^


Why?

Most people play the race they consider fun rather than the best or easisest to play race

Afterall we're not proffessionals, we play for entertainment

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Sep 6 2013 05:41am
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Why?

Most people play the race they consider fun rather than the best or easisest to play race

Afterall we're not proffessionals, we play for entertainment


As a competitor, no matter what level of play I'm at, If I feel one option is an option for easier / faster wins or whatever I will choose that.

If playing terran is so frustrating and you are only playing for fun, why not switch to the race you consider to be made for retards to see if it actually is as easy as you think it is?

:OO
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Quote (Svartermetalisk @ Sep 6 2013 01:29pm)
Why?

Most people play the race they consider fun rather than the best or easisest to play race

Afterall we're not proffessionals, we play for entertainment


Quote (Ferrite @ Sep 6 2013 01:41pm)
As a competitor, no matter what level of play I'm at, If I feel one option is an option for easier / faster wins or whatever I will choose that.

If playing terran is so frustrating and you are only playing for fun, why not switch to the race you consider to be made for retards to see if it actually is as easy as you think it is?

:OO


You both have a point, but are speaking from two different angles.
I play Terran simply because it is the only race I know how to play and it is also the only race I feel is fun.
I've tried the other races but I can't seem to find them as fun on either my level of play or the lower leagues where I might have a chance playing lets say Protoss.

Some people, like Ferrite stated will play for fun, and if fun is winning then obviously choosing to do what makes you win is a smart way to do it regardless if it is 8pooling with zerg every game or canon rushing.

But I agreed with Martin, that we play for fun and we're not professionals in any way, at least not the most of us. So we play to have fun, and if having fun is getting better at the race you choose to go with even if you're loosing many games, so be it.
I rather get good at one race, facing a lot of defeat than staying in Silver with all three races for the rest of this year trying to grind up myself to plat/diamond as a random player.

But we're all different with different opinions.

This post was edited by Spetch on Sep 6 2013 05:54am
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Sep 6 2013 11:06am
I think that just nerfing mines would be sufficient.
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Sep 6 2013 11:11am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Sep 6 2013 12:06pm)
I think that just nerfing mines would be sufficient.


It's only a matter of time
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