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May 15 2013 07:50am
why would you need +3attack upgrades for ultralisk?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Ultralisk_(Heart_of_the_Swarm)

35damage+3damage/35damage-1*100% = 8.6% increased damage


upgrade costs = 575minirals / 450gas
ultralist cost 375min 200gas, incl supply

miniral mining = 25%more income then gas
575+450*1.25 =+/- 1138miniral cost to upgrade
375+200*1.25 = 625miniral cost per ultralist

1138=8.6%
100%=13232minirals

13232/625*6= 127 supply of ultralist makes it benefitial to upgrade +3attack when it comes to total damage
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May 15 2013 08:13am
Quote (Tommyvv @ May 15 2013 01:50pm)
why would you need +3attack upgrades for ultralisk?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Ultralisk(HeartoftheSwarm)

35damage+3damage/35damage-1*100% = 8.6% increased damage


upgrade costs = 575minirals / 450gas
ultralist cost 375min 200gas, incl supply

miniral mining = 25%more income then gas
575+450*1.25 =+/- 1138miniral cost to upgrade
375+200*1.25 = 625miniral cost per ultralist

1138=8.6%
100%=13232minirals

13232/625*6= 127 supply of ultralist makes it benefitial to upgrade +3attack when it comes to total damage


It's not just for the ultralisks... It's also for the zerglings that (with adrenal glands) hit extremely fast.

E: Not to mention that when you're maxed, you can't do anything but upgrade to increase your army strength.

This post was edited by brt2 on May 15 2013 08:14am
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May 15 2013 11:36am
Quote (brt2 @ May 15 2013 04:15am)
Taken from reddit (yes, reddit):

15hatch

16pool

16gas

@100 gas, lingspeed

3rd queen immediately at natural

6:00 double evo

1/1 ups when evos done (~7:00)

7:30 3rd base, lair, 2nd gas, 4th queen

8:30 3rd & 4th gas

9:00 macro hatch, infestation pit

9:40 2/2 upgrades

10:00 hive

10:20 triple infestor, no pathogen glands

11:00 5th + 6th gas

12:30 3/3, adrenal glands, ultra cavern

13:00 4th base

13:40 chitenous plating

~15:00 Ultralisk push hits protoss


I use this build and it works out fine with the upgrades. You can be maxed out at 15:00 with 3/3 close to finishing and you take 2d gas at 7:30.


this is the leenock build, but the gas timings are a bit quirky, and the hive is late enough to make 2base colossus timings a threat. Ofc you could skip the infestors if he takes a third and probably be just fine. As is, ultras won't pop until 14:30 and plating won't be done till 15 ++++++

This post was edited by eyewuvd2 on May 15 2013 11:37am
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May 15 2013 12:17pm
Aye if you don't see any expand around 9 minutes you can change it up a bit I guess... that's what I've been doing at least.
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May 15 2013 12:25pm
Quote (eyewuvd2 @ May 15 2013 01:36pm)
this is the leenock build, but the gas timings are a bit quirky, and the hive is late enough to make 2base colossus timings a threat.  Ofc you could skip the infestors if he takes a third and probably be just fine.  As is, ultras won't pop until 14:30 and plating won't be done till 15 ++++++


This is very similar to JD's build and somewhat similar to Life and Sniper? (on GSTL). That's why I was confused to where you found the original build, it's pretty different from anything showcased on GSTL/GSL/Dreamhack.
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May 15 2013 12:26pm
Quote (Tommyvv @ 15 May 2013 15:50)
why would you need +3attack upgrades for ultralisk?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Ultralisk%5F(Heart%5Fof%5Fthe%5FSwarm)

35damage+3damage/35damage-1*100% = 8.6% increased damage


upgrade costs = 575minirals / 450gas
ultralist cost 375min 200gas, incl supply

miniral mining = 25%more income then gas
575+450*1.25 =+/- 1138miniral cost to upgrade
375+200*1.25 = 625miniral cost per ultralist

1138=8.6%
100%=13232minirals

13232/625*6= 127 supply of ultralist makes it benefitial to upgrade +3attack when it comes to total damage


Quote (Tommyvv @ 15 May 2013 15:50)
why would you need +3attack upgrades for ultralisk?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Ultralisk%5F(Heart%5Fof%5Fthe%5FSwarm)

35damage+3damage/35damage-1*100% = 8.6% increased damage


upgrade costs = 575minirals / 450gas
ultralist cost 375min 200gas, incl supply

miniral mining = 25%more income then gas
575+450*1.25 =+/- 1138miniral cost to upgrade
375+200*1.25 = 625miniral cost per ultralist

1138=8.6%
100%=13232minirals

13232/625*6= 127 supply of ultralist makes it benefitial to upgrade +3attack when it comes to total damage





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Quote (Tommyvv @ May 15 2013 09:50am)
why would you need +3attack upgrades for ultralisk?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Ultralisk%5F(Heart%5Fof%5Fthe%5FSwarm)

35damage+3damage/35damage-1*100% = 8.6% increased damage


upgrade costs = 575minirals / 450gas
ultralist cost 375min 200gas, incl supply

miniral mining = 25%more income then gas
575+450*1.25 =+/- 1138miniral cost to upgrade
375+200*1.25 = 625miniral cost per ultralist

1138=8.6%
100%=13232minirals

13232/625*6= 127 supply of ultralist makes it benefitial to upgrade +3attack when it comes to total damage


this is fucking annoying now
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May 15 2013 03:03pm
Quote (brt2 @ May 15 2013 11:17pm)
There's no "sides" to be on... If you're going to discredit the entirety of reddit because you're butthurt over some trolls on r/funny you're pretty retarded.


Yes that is exactly why I discredit them. Good work sherlock.
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