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May 9 2012 05:59am
Quote (820 @ May 9 2012 11:55am)
Don't read too much into it, he may be the greatest BW player of all time but SC2 is still a relatively new game to him. There are going to be many concepts he's going to struggle with, just like other BW players that switched over. For example, In_Dove ( a really really good bw pro from way back ) went on a huge rant about the infestor. Or take for an example PuMa has said ( and demonstrated ) that T > P lategame. It doesn't matter much and really means nothing.


well that was a year ago.
he lost recently to Titan in a best of 5 and said that the reason he lost was that protoss lategame is to strong.

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May 9 2012 06:01am
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well that was a year ago.
he lost recently to Titan in a best of 5 and said that the  reason he lost was that protoss lategame is to strong.


wasn't a year ago, last 2 months and nothing really has changed except puma is puma and loses games lol
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May 9 2012 06:04am
Quote (820 @ May 9 2012 12:01pm)
wasn't a year ago, last 2 months and nothing really has changed except puma is puma and loses games lol


pumas statement, that protoss lategame is to strong was some weeks ago.
it was when EG lost to roxkis in the liquid teamleague.
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May 9 2012 06:07am
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pumas statement, that protoss lategame is to strong was some weeks ago.
it was when EG lost to roxkis in the liquid teamleague.


More like Protoss actually figured out a way to counter Terran's bread and butter builds.
Now we wait until Terran steps up their metagaming to counter current Protoss metagame and it'll be T>P again and so on

Game is pretty close to being balanced
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May 9 2012 06:17am
Quote (AemKei @ May 9 2012 12:04pm)
pumas statement, that protoss lategame is to strong was some weeks ago.
it was when EG lost to roxkis in the liquid teamleague.


was wrong.

was a best of 3 vs feast
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May 9 2012 06:26am
Quote (HowToTrainMyDragon @ May 9 2012 07:07am)
More like Protoss actually figured out a way to counter Terran's bread and butter builds.
Now we wait until Terran steps up their metagaming to counter current Protoss metagame and it'll be T>P again and so on

Game is pretty close to being balanced


idk how tosses lose to bio timing attacks unless its a really weird early awkward attk
but other than that idk...
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May 9 2012 06:44am
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More like Protoss actually figured out a way to counter Terran's bread and butter builds.
Now we wait until Terran steps up their metagaming to counter current Protoss metagame and it'll be T>P again and so on

Game is pretty close to being balanced


Innovation is running dry fast, there's only so much you can do when the game caps out at 3-base economy.
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May 9 2012 07:13am
Quote (Curbelo @ May 9 2012 08:26am)
idk how tosses lose to bio timing attacks unless its a really weird early awkward attk
but other than that  idk...


terran has all the advantages until templars come out, they have mobility, can play greedy, and will win a straight up fight without any splash from toss

Quote (bogie160 @ May 9 2012 08:44am)
Innovation is running dry fast, there's only so much you can do when the game caps out at 3-base economy.


Wasnt it the same for broodwar when it first started out?
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May 9 2012 08:05am
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terran has all the advantages until templars come out, they have mobility, can play greedy, and will win a straight up fight without any splash from toss


Right

but after that it shifts to P > T

So basically Terran has to do something early to punish toss or lose game by default later on unless toss is rly bad

Its pretty retarded for both races, matchup is just bad.

This post was edited by Svartermetalisk on May 9 2012 08:05am
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May 9 2012 08:10am
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Right

but after that it shifts to P > T

So basically Terran has to do something early to punish toss or lose game by default later on unless toss is rly bad

Its pretty retarded for both races, matchup is just bad.


all the matchups are bad
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